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  • Agreed.
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    • I think I'm most interesting in finding out what happens with the Jon Snow cliff hanger.
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      • Behind the scenes sneak peak at season 4.
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        • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
          I think I'm most interesting in finding out what happens with the Jon Snow cliff hanger.
          Spoiler:
          he's not dead

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          • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
            Spoiler:
            he's not dead
            Spoiler:
            But we don't know if he survives his wounds on his own, if he dies and is brought back by the red witch, or if he wargs into his wolf. Personally, I hope it is #1 because the other two are two magical and I hate to see magic used as a crutch.
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            • Spoiler:
              I'm in the "the wounds just weren't fatal" camp, but him getting brought back to life or whatever would potentially free him from his vows to the Night's Watch. So who knows. Obviously him dying is not an option, and obviously he's the Azor Ahai reborn dude (all Melisandre saw was Snow) so being reborn may have serious plot implications.

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              • Spoiler:
                I still think he is the son of Rhaegar and Lena Stark.
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                • I have conclusive proof that GRRM is working on The Winds of Winter. And his autograph.
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                  • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                    Spoiler:
                    I still think he is the son of Rhaegar and Lena Stark.
                    Spoiler:
                    a) it's Lyanna, b) yes, everyone does

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                    • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                      Spoiler:
                      But we don't know if he survives his wounds on his own, if he dies and is brought back by the red witch, or if he wargs into his wolf. Personally, I hope it is #1 because the other two are two magical and I hate to see magic used as a crutch.
                      Spoiler:
                      *gasp* magic in a.... FANTASY series?!! What's next?! Dragons? Oh wait... in other words, get used to it
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                        Spoiler:
                        I'm in the "the wounds just weren't fatal" camp, but him getting brought back to life or whatever would potentially free him from his vows to the Night's Watch. So who knows. Obviously him dying is not an option, and obviously he's the Azor Ahai reborn dude (all Melisandre saw was Snow) so being reborn may have serious plot implications.
                        Spoiler:
                        Bingo - dying and coming back means he no longer has to stay with the Night's Watch since he served them for his entire life. He just got a new one
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • Besides, the prologue of book five had to exist for some purpose, and introducing the
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                          rules for warging at death
                          seems to fit the bill.
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                          "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                          • Spoiler:
                            He's not coming back as an animal.

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                            • I bet you the contents of my wallet that
                              Spoiler:
                              Ghost
                              will play some role in the question at hand.
                              "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                              "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                              • Spoiler:
                                They did play up the whole warg thing, that Jon Snow is a warg (as are several other Starks) so I would expect Jon to warg into Snow just so we can see the warg storyline play out. I'm hoping he is only wounded and wargs into Snow while he is recovering but for all I know he could be brought back to life by the Red Witch. I think that would be kind of a copout though I could then see that used as an argument that Jon Snow had fulfilled his vows to the Night's Watch since he died thus freeing him up to go fight in the south or even help the Targarians if he finds out he is one.
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