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  • #46
    Mad Monk has the Caption - "We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941."

    This is very true. I believe FDR was the worst President of the 20th Century, most problems we have today emanate from his administration.

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    • #47
      Now, maybe the body doesn't necessarily break the bond. But even then it's still just sugar, the only difference is the body uses HFCS more efficiently.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by gribbler View Post
        No, I'd imagine that breaking the bond between hydrogen and oxygen in a water molecule is much more difficult than breaking the bond between fructose and glucose in a sucrose molecule.
        Breakage into monosaccharides occurs almost immediately upon entering the stomach
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        • #49
          Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
          Breakage into monosaccharides occurs almost immediately upon entering the stomach
          This would also be true for rats, right? Maybe they simply decide to drink more when they're presented with HFCS.

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          • #50
            Drinking rats? What kind of sick ****s are you people?
            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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            • #51
              Originally posted by gribbler View Post
              No, I'd imagine that breaking the bond between hydrogen and oxygen in a water molecule is much more difficult than breaking the bond between fructose and glucose in a sucrose molecule.
              The Peer Reviewed Science published in 'Pharmacology, Biochemistry and Behaviour', has determined in scientific experiments that: that rats with access to high-fructose corn syrup -- a sweetener found in many popular sodas -- gain significantly more weight than those with access to water sweetened with table sugar, even when they consume the same number of calories."

              Do you have any sound science to overturn the conclusion of this peer reviewed published scientific study from scientists at Princeton U. that determined specific detrimental effects of High Fructose Corn Syrup as opposed to your "high fructose corn syrup is just a mix of fructose and glucose. While a sucrose molecule is composed of a glucose molecule attached to a fructose molecule. Now, maybe I'm wrong and those things are radically different."

              If the Peer reviewed Science Paper is true, then your statement must be wrong and "... those things are radically different." Just as H and O molecules are are radically different as H gases and O gases (highly explosive) to HO molecules (Hydrogen per oxide) that we sometimes put on our wounds, to H2O which is water that we drink. Same atoms, different configurations, totally different physical characteristics.

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              • #52
                http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20516261

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                High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) has become an increasingly common food ingredient in the last 40 years. However, there is concern that HFCS consumption increases the risk for obesity and other adverse health outcomes compared to other caloric sweeteners. The most commonly used types of HFCS (HFCS-42 and HFCS-55) are similar in composition to sucrose (table sugar), consisting of roughly equal amounts of fructose and glucose. The primary difference is that these monosaccharides exist free in solution in HFCS, but in disaccharide form in sucrose. The disaccharide sucrose is easily cleaved in the small intestine, so free fructose and glucose are absorbed from both sucrose and HFCS. The advantage to food manufacturers is that the free monosaccharides in HFCS provide better flavor enhancement, stability, freshness, texture, color, pourability, and consistency in foods in comparison to sucrose. Because the composition of HFCS and sucrose is so similar, particularly on absorption by the body, it appears unlikely that HFCS contributes more to obesity or other conditions than sucrose does. Nevertheless, few studies have evaluated the potentially differential effect of various sweeteners, particularly as they relate to health conditions such as obesity, which develop over relatively long periods of time. Improved nutrient databases are needed to analyze food consumption in epidemiologic studies, as are more strongly designed experimental studies, including those on the mechanism of action and relationship between fructose dose and response. At the present time, there is insufficient evidence to ban or otherwise restrict use of HFCS or other fructose-containing sweeteners in the food supply or to require the use of warning labels on products containing HFCS. Nevertheless, dietary advice to limit consumption of all added caloric sweeteners, including HFCS, is warranted.
                Maybe you should propose a mechanism for how consuming a substance that easily breaks into fructose and glucose during digestion is supposed to be substantially different from consuming fructose and glucose.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20516261

                  Abstract


                  Maybe you should propose a mechanism for how consuming a substance that easily breaks into fructose and glucose during digestion is supposed to be substantially different from consuming fructose and glucose.
                  I'm not a chemist nor a micro-biologist. But I sure do know how to read a peer reviewed science Paper and it's conclusions.

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                  • #54
                    I guess a miracle occurs every time an organism consumes sucrose and that causes the resulting mix of glucose and fructose to behave differently from a mix of glucose and fructose.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
                      Yes, how dare they put fruit sugar in fruit!
                      There's a difference between that, and tons of high fructose syrup to make foods more unhealthy. You're not that obtuse, are you?
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
                        I had some of the boxed foods which I think actually went bad.

                        JM
                        I cooked a box of well past due (2 years iirc) Kraft Dinner. All was fine until I added in the cheese sauce/powder.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by ur32212451 View Post
                          The Peer Reviewed Science published in 'Pharmacology, Biochemistry and Behaviour', has determined in scientific experiments that: that rats with access to high-fructose corn syrup -- a sweetener found in many popular sodas -- gain significantly more weight than those with access to water sweetened with table sugar, even when they consume the same number of calories."

                          Do you have any sound science to overturn the conclusion of this peer reviewed published scientific study from scientists at Princeton U. that determined specific detrimental effects of High Fructose Corn Syrup as opposed to your "high fructose corn syrup is just a mix of fructose and glucose. While a sucrose molecule is composed of a glucose molecule attached to a fructose molecule. Now, maybe I'm wrong and those things are radically different."

                          If the Peer reviewed Science Paper is true, then your statement must be wrong and "... those things are radically different." Just as H and O molecules are are radically different as H gases and O gases (highly explosive) to HO molecules (Hydrogen per oxide) that we sometimes put on our wounds, to H2O which is water that we drink. Same atoms, different configurations, totally different physical characteristics.

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                          I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that the rodents aren't big fruit eaters...
                          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                          • #58
                            Rats eat everything.

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                            • #59
                              Now, now Aeson - let's leave Republicans out of this.
                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                                Rats eat everything.
                                I suppose they do.
                                No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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