Canucks may become "clean"

[Wezil]

There you go again.



Stays at #1 on my list.

[notyoueither]

If you don't want to be called on ****, don't post ****.

[Wezil]

I'm happy to be called on it. The argument is there for people to see and make their minds up.

I've been through this debate with you before and it was a bad trip then and I don't expect it to get any better second time around.

Go make your complaint against my deficit spending PM accusation in the election thread (it was yet more OT in the thread raised hence my non-response to it) if you want something new to talk about. Your Conservative talking point answer was unconvincing. Sorry, was that bigoted?

[notyoueither]

No, oil is a religion to Albertans, and Albertans are too stupid to know any better is/was bigoted.

The rest of your blather is your typical cynicism that we know you and love you for.

If you did not want to rehash the past argument, why did you bring it up? You had no argument then, and you have no argument now. Very curious.

[Wezil]

I bring it up because to me it is a hilarious proposition.

Co-incidentally (?) every other person I have found that agrees with the premise is also an Albertan. The non-Albertans I have run this past react pretty much the same way I do. I haven't polled every citizen of your province but no doubt some Albertans disagree with you just as some apparently vote something other than Conservative (although they haven't been a plurality since 1971). Sorry for my generalizations.

[notyoueither]

Everyone who agrees with the premise that land can be reclaimed or restored after industrial activity is an Albertan? You find a lot of Albertans in Holland where they've reclaimed land from the sea and now farm it? Now that's a difficult reclamation.

And how is it you've never voted NDP? Even I've voted NDP. What was that you were assuming about people again based on their place of residence? What do we say about people who assume things about individuals based on stereotypes? Oh, yes, bigot. If the shoe fits, and you really want to eat it, chow down, dear.

[Wezil]

Everyone who agrees with the premise that land can be reclaimed or restored after industrial activity is an Albertan?

That was not your position.

100% - Just as it was.

And how is it you've never voted NDP? Even I've voted NDP.

Umm, maybe the fact I am a philosophical libertarian has something to do with me not voting for the socialist party? I have traditionally voted Conservative with the occasional vote for a fringe party.

What was that you were assuming about people again based on their place of residence? What do we say about people who assume things about individuals base on stereotypes? Oh, yes, bigot. If the shoe fits, and you really want to eat it, keep going, dear.

Oh get over yourself. It's Poly for christ sakes. If you can't take a provincial tweaking without resorting to calling me "dear" you really are in the wrong place. Keep going, sweety.

[notyoueither]

That was not your position.

100% - Just as it was.

I am having a hard time imagining what your hangup is. Ignorance and FUD do explain it though. The area where open surface mining is possible and practical is not that large (a small fraction of the total area containing recoverable oil from oilsands). The depth of excavations for surface mining is not that deep. They are not taking the tops off mountains, or digging 1000 foot holes.

The most challenging part of reclamation would be rehabilitation of dried tailings ponds. That is where there has been extensive testing, and it has been successfuly done. Furthermore, the use of tailing ponds is being phased out entirely so will not be any concern at all as newer pieces of the surface minable area are exploited. Other than the ponds, there are rather large yards that need to have base layers put back on and then soil applied and planted. It's a giant landscaping project, for the most part. None of it is rocket surgery outside of the tailing ponds, and the tailing ponds have been done.

Umm, maybe the fact I am a philosophical libertarian has something to do with me not voting for the socialist party? I have traditionally voted Conservative with the occasional vote for a fringe party.

Depending on the riding, they could be a fringe party there. I voted for the best candidate who happened to be from the NDP, at least once.

Oh get over yourself. It's Poly for christ sakes. If you can't take a provincial tweaking without resorting to calling me "dear" you really are in the wrong place. Keep going, sweety.

I'm going to call bull**** to this. You resorted to sterotypes and bigotry in what appears to be an effort to discredit or marginalise an opposing viewpoint. 'Don't care/don't worry about him, he's just another raving Conservative loony from Alberta.' If you want to resort to the tactics of a fvcking bigot, expect to be called a fvcking bigot on it, dear.

[Wezil]

I give up. You are too tedious.

[Asher]

Needs more venom.

[Wezil]

That's the problem. I didn't come here to fight with people but NYE has his panties in a twist over a two year old argument and he won't let it go.

I'd rather see some more action in your election thread but that sits idle.

[Dinner]

From what I've heard from far more credible people, it doesn't recover any more oil. It just reduces initial cap-ex, ongoing op-ex (if it works in large scale), and is better PR. So obviously they're taking it seriously. But as you say, nye, there's enormous strides made every year in making it more economical and environmentally friendly and this is just one example. It's in the papers because some university is tooting their horn about it.

There's an entire building on the UofC campus (the Petro-Canada building ), that's essentially dedicated to oil sands applied research.

If it really is a way to do it with less water, which I highly doubt, then it just might be useful in the US for our oil sand or oil shale deposits.

[BlackCat]

I must confess that I have enjoyed the result of my little posting - I now know for sure that Hans Ø will be danish forever and that we without resistance from canucks can claim the Nort Pole too

You'll be too busy fighting internally

[Egbert]

I must confess that I have enjoyed the result of my little posting - I now know for sure that Hans Ø will be danish forever and that we without resistance from canucks can claim the Nort Pole too

You'll be too busy fighting internally

Invade Canada while they are busy infighting.

Evil vikings

[Asher]

Canada invaded Denmark and installed a puppet government two years ago but no one seems to have noticed.