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    NC Republicans Fight to Ban Municipal Internet Services

    If they get in the way of business, take away power from local governments, say top state Republicans

    Politics is seldom black and white as issues overlap producing shades of gray. In the 2008 and 2010 election "Tea Party" Republicans like Sarah Palin vocally advocated reducing the size of the federal government and putting more power in the hands of state and municipal governments. Now Republicans in North Carolina are pushing a contrary position -- robbing municipal governments of power.

    I. Bill H129 -- "Bill-y the Municipal Internet Slayer"

    At stake is the issue of whether elected officials can use their city's budget money to offer public cable internet and Wi-Fi offerings to make up for lack of competition on the market.

    House Bill 129, a pending piece of legislation, looks to block municipalities from being able to do that, though it partially excludes a few municipalities with established systems.

    This is a complex issue, so we feel it's worth looking at the pros in cons in depth. So what is this crazy idea of municipal internet?

    II. The Good -- Competition at Last

    To start, it's important to make clear how these municipal internet projects are born. Every year, local residents vote in city council members. It is typically these city council members that vote to create municipal internet projects (though in rare cases citizens may directly vote on the issue).

    While some would argue that this takes power out of the hands of citizens, that point is more of a criticism of elected officials on all levels in general. After all, if the citizens didn't want the service, they could vote for council candidates who would repeal funding.

    The idea of municipal utilities isn't exactly a foreign concept in America. Much of America is served by municipal water utilities.

    In North Carolina, the problem is lack of competition. Customers across much of North Carolina have one choice if they wanted fast (cable) internet -- Time Warner. If they're willing to settle for slower speeds they have slower alternatives like AT&T (DSL) or Embarq (DSL). Time Warner and Embarq have taken advantage of this situation raising prices to exorbitant levels and offer lower-than-promised speeds.

    Those high prices caused cities to begin to step in and propose a new system of "pipes" to go with their municipal water -- fiber optic internet. The results have largely been a success, with communities like Wilson, North Carolina (Greenlight, Inc.), Salisbury (Fibrant), Davidson (MI-Connection), and Morganton (CoMPAS Cable TV & Internet).

    Borrowing $25M USD to $40M USD in private sector loans up front, cities are able to install super-fast fiber optic lines, connect citizens, and connect these lines to the external outgoing lines. Federal laws mandate that telephone and internet cables must enjoy equal access, so there's little that Time Warner and Embarq can do to prevent cities from plugging into the system.

    Once operational, these networks have generally been embraced by many citizens due to high speed and low costs. For example, Wilson citizens last year paid $35/month to get a 10 Mbps internet connection, while they would have to pay as much as $57/month to get an equivalent connection from Time Warner. Faced with the prospect of paying up to $264 USD less a year, most customers are opting out of Time Warner as fast as possible.

    Other advantages include that the service offers its lowest price as a set rate, not a promotion (so customers don't have to worry about an unpleasant bump) and they clearly post all their pricing information on their website, without the need to enter personal information (Time Warner requires personal information to get pricing on its website).

    Given that appeal, the services are quickly able to make the transition to positive tax flow. For example after about two years Wilson's Greenlight project is now tax-flow positive, allowing it to pay back the loans it took to lay down the infrastructure. In other words, at the end of the day citizens voted for this system, get lower prices, keep their money local, and don't pay more in taxes.

    The services also are a boon for businesses, offering connection speeds that Time Warner has refused to offer like a 1 Gbps line. Without the municipal line, no business would be able to buy a connection this fast.

    Why is this deal so sweet? Well the biggest factor is simply that the lack of competition was allowing the prices to be kept artificially high.

    And since the introduction, Time Warner has actually been forced to respond by lowering prices. The result, according to research funded by the City of Wilson, is that Wilson residents have saved $1M USD over the past couple years on internet versus citizens in Raleigh, thanks to the lower priced city service and local-only price cuts from Time Warner to try to stay competitive.

    II. So What's the Downside?

    Republican lawmakers in the state government have been trying unsuccessfully to kill these services almost since they started. States State Representative Ruth Samuelson, R-Mecklenburg in a recent interview, "I don't believe that providing service isn't a core part of government. They don’t deliver my newspaper. They don’t buy my groceries. I don’t see what they should be in there providing my Internet service."

    Initially the lawmakers contended that the municipalities were too inept to implement successful services. That argument was essentially killed when the efforts quickly showed strong signs of success, saving citizens money, gaining large subscriber numbers, and entering positive cash flow.

    Subsequently Republicans switched their tactic to complaining that the services were unfair and created a government competitor to private business (though they have failed to attack similar "government competitors" in the water industry).

    GOP Rep. Marilyn Avila of Raleigh, a chief sponsor of Bill H129 states, "We have our local governments in direct competition with private industry."

    Time Warner enthusiastically voiced its support, with a company statement that remarked, "The bill is intended to create a level playing field so, If local governments want to provide commercial retail services in direct competition with private business, they can't use their considerable advantages unfairly."

    III. Allegations of Lobbyist Influence

    In our discussions with state and local officials we've heard lots of rumors of lobbyist pressure from Time Warner and Embarq on Republicans to push this bill in its current form.

    The local site "Stop the Cap!" claims that one of the bill's key sponsors -- Rep. Julia Howard -- received direct campaign contributions from Time Warner and other groups opposing the municipal services. As the city of Wilson also offers cheap municipal phone service, Ms. Howard received $4,000 from CenturyLink, who supplies a large share of the local phone service. She received $750 from TimeWarner and $1,500 from AT&T (who took issue with the municipal cable offerings).

    It is possible other reps, including Rep. Avila received similar cash donations. It's also possible they received even more money from these companies funneled through private donors.

    There's plenty of opposition against the bill on principal alone. States Rep. Bill Faison, D-Caswell, "What this is Time Warner Cable's efforts to cut out municipalities as a potential competitor, and it is a monopolistic bill from the word go. We still have people who are largely under-served throughout many areas in our state."

    The bill would prevent new municipal internet projects unless they partnered with a "private firm" and there were restrictions on what kind of private firm would be eligible. Further, it prevents current and new projects from seeking private loans to finance their projects (presumably the business partner would have to seek such loans).

    The bill narrow passed the House Finance Committee.

    But sufficient public debate was not held, so the measure must be revoted on, on March 23 after there's sufficient time for public comment.

    A passing vote would clear the measure to go to vote before the broader House. If it passes again, from there it would go on to the State Senate and to the governor to sign into law.
    How quaint.
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    They've been doing this for years. I recall an article in the Economist a few years back about a small town (I think it was in Pennsylvania but I'm probably not remembering correctly) which kept asking companies to hook them up for high speed internet access. The nearest large provider kept saying that the market in the town was too small to justify the expensive of hooking it up with DSL or cable service so the town decided to start it's own ISP offering high speed internet. The company's response was to seek a bill in the state government outlawing such competition and getting the town to stop. "We won't hook you up for service but we damn well don't want new competitors popping up which will potentially compete with us." This is nothing short but yet another example of political corruption in America; companies literally own legislatures and rather then letting markets decide winners and losers the politically connected big businesses want to simply legislate themselves as the permanent winners.
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    • #3
      companies literally own legislatures



      Like the West Virginia "Ally Insurance" State Legislature?
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      • #4
        Ahmurika.

        What a ****hole.
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        • #5
          Republicans are showing their true colors here.

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          • #6
            I hate my state, i'd give them a small wack to intill some common sense but it would be a high crime, bleh........ forget it, i hope it fails...
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Thoth View Post
              Ahmurika.

              What a ****hole.

              They generally pay less for internet and phone service than Canadians...
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              • #8
                But the speed of that internet access isn't all that great even with DSL or cable.

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                • #9
                  There have been four bills like this in the past, they all died in committee. Hopefully, this one does the same. Though, only a few cities in NC have municipal ISPs.
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                  • #10
                    I don't believe it is the purview of government to supply means of communication, since they are supposed to be regulating it. Conflict of interest.

                    That said, I think local governments should be permitted to fund anything they like so long as it is done with the knowledge and agreement of the electorate, and doesn't violate the Constitution.

                    edit: yes, I know, the post office. That's a special case.
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                    • #11
                      "'I don't believe that providing service isn't a core part of government....'"

                      Is this a typo or did he really say that?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
                        I don't believe it is the purview of government to supply means of communication, since they are supposed to be regulating it. Conflict of interest.

                        That said, I think local governments should be permitted to fund anything they like so long as it is done with the knowledge and agreement of the electorate, and doesn't violate the Constitution.

                        edit: yes, I know, the post office. That's a special case.
                        Why is the post office a special case?

                        If the elected officials of the local government want to do something, then they should be able to do as they please. The NC state republicans are obviously fascists.
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                        • #13
                          What really sucks is that in rural NC TW cable and Charter don't service a lot of streets/housing developments. So residents are stuck with slow DSL from AT&T.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            Why is the post office a special case?

                            If the elected officials of the local government want to do something, then they should be able to do as they please. The NC state republicans are obviously fascists.
                            The post office is a special case because it is explicitly defined as a federal power in the Constitution.
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                            • #15
                              Why is the U.S. Constitution relevant to municipal/county level spending?
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