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    Aloha, I have a little bit of a calculation to complete, as follows:

    58.4 = ln(1-1.95c)/ln(1-0.05c)

    So errr is there a simple way of working out what c is (if it is a value at all)? It's been too long since I done proper maths... I know I can raise everything by e^x to give

    e^58.4 = (1-1.95c)/(1-0.05c)

    but I still dunno where to go from there, cos I'm rubbish! Any helps?

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    20
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    • #3
      say that e^58.4 is Z. So you've got
      Z = (1-1.95c)/(1-0.05c)
      Z(1-0.05c)=1-1.95c
      Z - 0.05cZ = 1 - 1.95c
      Z - 1 = 0.05cZ - 1.95c
      (Z - 1) / (0.05Z - 1.95) = c
      (e^58.4 - 1) / (0.05 * (e^58.4) - 1.95) = c
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      • #4
        And there I was thinking 20 was just a joke response! Thanks

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        • #5
          Yeah, I figured it needed a bit more explanation when it came out to such a nice answer
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Gibsie View Post
            Aloha, I have a little bit of a calculation to complete, as follows:

            58.4 = ln(1-1.95c)/ln(1-0.05c)

            So errr is there a simple way of working out what c is (if it is a value at all)? It's been too long since I done proper maths... I know I can raise everything by e^x to give

            e^58.4 = (1-1.95c)/(1-0.05c)

            but I still dunno where to go from there, cos I'm rubbish! Any helps?
            Even your first step is wrong.
            e^((ln a)/(ln b)) is not a/b, it's a^(1/ ln b), so loinburger was working on a different problem than your original one.

            Also, if c=20, then neither equation is defined, since (1-0.05c) is 0, so you either have denominator 0 or log 0.
            Last edited by Lul Thyme; March 3, 2011, 18:29.

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            • #7
              I once saw a dog try to hump a cat.

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              • #8
                Was the attempt successful?

                What would you call the offspring?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Braindead View Post
                  What would you call the offspring?

                  Oh... so..... tempting......I....must.......resist..........

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                  • #10
                    Couldn't find an analytical solution.
                    Online mathematica finds c approx 0.301801.

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                    Whenever you solve something like this, it's always good to sanity check and plug back whatever you find back in the original problem.

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                    • #11
                      Oh man, I sure do regret putting those crayons down in the 3rd grade and dropping out of school.
                      Last edited by Docfeelgood; March 3, 2011, 18:46.

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                      • #12
                        I followed that link........wow! you guys are smart.

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                        • #13
                          Yeah I figured there was a problem somewhere when I put in a different value in place of the 58.4 part and the result was 20 again! Plus the concept of the question should give an answer between 0 and 1 as well, so, thanks again

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