Army trying once again to be more like the Corps

[Al B. Sure!]

And people on here claim that the Corps needs to be merged with the Army? Yet the innovation seems to come from the Corps:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110302/ap_on_re_us/us_army_new_fitness_test

A new annual "combat readiness" test includes running 400 meters — about a quarter of a mile — with a rifle, moving through an obstacle course in full combat gear, and crawling and vaulting over obstacles while aiming a rifle. Soldiers also will have to run on a balance beam while carrying 30-pound ammo boxes and do an agility sprint around a course field of cones.
Soldiers also will have to drag sleds weighted with sandbags to test their ability to pull a fallen comrade from the battlefield. The combat test might be given before deployments as well as annually, but that has not been decided.
The Army will keep elements of its old assessment in a "physical readiness" test, which adds such things as a 60-yard shuttle run and a standing long jump to one minute of push-ups and a 1.5-mile timed run. This might be given every six months, said Frank Palkoska, head of the Army's Fitness School at Fort Jackson.
Hertling said trials of the new program are starting this month at eight bases and the plan could be adopted Army-wide after reviews later this year.

The Marine Corps started running the Combat Fitness Test which is similar to this (but longer; for example, 880 yard sprint in gear instead of the Army's 400m) in 2009. The Marine CFT is also done semi-annually, not annually as the Army intends their version to be done. Gee, it took 2 years for the Army to do what the Marines started.

[Asher]

"innovation"

Christ, that ain't innovation.

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT THE ARMY WAS TWO FULL YEARS BEHIND THE MARINES IN ADDING A COMBAT READINESS TEST. WOW.

[Dinner]

Call me when either one actually wants you.

[dannubis]

OK. Then the Corps is fully obsolete now.

[The Mad Monk]

You guys are just rotten to the corps.

[Docfeelgood]

Wow!

[Al B. Sure!]

Call me when either one actually wants you.

You probably know how pushy Army recruiters are. Literally beating down the door to talk to you. I got a call from one (an officer recruiter) a few months back. I'm not sure how he got my number

[Tupac Shakur]

Why hasn't anyone commented on how ***** the Marines "combat readiness test" sounds? It sounds easier than any high school football practice; only an invalid like Albie would fail to pass it...

I bet the Canadian Forces' physical requirements are much more stringent. Elite forces...

[Asher]

[Al B. Sure!]

Why hasn't anyone commented on how ***** the Marines "combat readiness test" sounds? It sounds easier than any high school football practice; only an invalid like Albie would fail to pass it...

I bet the Canadian Forces' physical requirements are much more stringent. Elite forces...

1) Where did I post about the Marine Combat Fitness Test? My post only described the Army's.
2) I did not fail the Marine CFT. I actually never took an official CFT but I have no reason to expect that I would do anything but score well. I ran 880 yard dashes in gear within the time required and can do the ammo can press easily for a max score.
3) It probably is easier than a football practice. It's a test. It's designed to see where someone stands using a scoring system and is NOT training (a perfect 300 on the CFT is a much different beast than just passing the test, by the way)


And Drake, Canada uses Crossfit.

Crossfit Used to Train Soldiers for Combat


Suck it, Drake. Suck it hard like you swallow KH's ****.

[Al B. Sure!]

And here's the official documentation from the Canadian Forces:


Canadian Forces Army Fitness Manual Supplement: Combat Fitness Program

Army Fitness Manual Supplement: Combat Fitness Programi 1PREFACE 101. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS 1. The development of the Army Fitness Manual Supplement has been the result of
collaboration between numerous groups of people.The project was spearheaded by the
Canadian Forces Infantry School at Combat Training Centre (CTC) Gagetown based on their
experiences with the CrossFit ® Training Program and their own functional physical fitness
program.The Infantry School’s successes with their programs led them to propose an addition
to the Army Fitness Manual to incorporate some of the training methods that they were using.
The Canadian Forces Personnel Support Agency (CFPSA) contracted Dr. Howie Wenger (the
original author of the Army Fitness Manual) to review both the CrossFit ® training program and
the proposed program submitted by the Infantry School, and to provide recommendations for
using a CrossFit-type program in the Canadian Forces.With these recommendations from Dr.
Wenger1 and the input from the Infantry School, CFPSA has produced these three new
chapters for the Army Fitness Manual outlining a high intensity functional fitness program called
the “Combat Fitness Program” (CFP).Thank you to the following individuals who have
contributed to the development of this manual:

Contributing Authors( alphabetical) Mr. Greg Glassman, CrossFit

SUCK IT AND SWALLOW IT, DRAKE

[Al B. Sure!]

This is part of the Marine CFT. This is a test with a scoring system. The faster you do it, the better your score, so the goal is to do it quickly.

This is the maneuver under fire portion:


The goal of the above is to be finished in 2:14

That Marine is tired because that portion is the 3rd event in sequence.

You start with an 880 yard sprint in boots, rifle, and 782 gear (goal pace for men is 2:45) then 30lb ammo can press for reps. The can must pass below the chin and be extended to full lock out at the top. Goal is 91 presses in 2 minutes. You then do the above maneuver under fire.

It is not intended to be some crazy ass-kicking nor training. It is a test to see where Marines stand. A perfect score is the goal, not to simply pass.

*by the way, his pushups after the grenade throw were pretty bad. Those should not have counted.

[Al B. Sure!]

And of course there is the USMC obstacle course:



At the end he is running because he's running to his gear and rifle to traverse a several mile endurance course filled with more obstacles and water crossings.


Do not dare question Marine Corps physical standards unless you have ever set foot at MCRD Parris Island, MCRD San Diego, or OCS Quantico. Seriously. Who are any of you to make any judgments?

[Asher]

And here's the official documentation from the Canadian Forces:


Canadian Forces Army Fitness Manual Supplement: Combat Fitness Program



SUCK IT AND SWALLOW IT, DRAKE

This just proves Canada's is better.

[Al B. Sure!]

This just proves Canada's is better.

Yeah not to Drake though. Drake is very anti-Crossfit. I figured I would stab him in the heart with the irony!




And by the way, the Marine Corps has switched to Crossfit-style work at the Recruit Depots and at OCS. My last go at OCS was much different than my first time. The Physical Training was Crossfit even in name (the Physical Training Instructors and the First Sergeant referred to it as Crossfit).