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  • Mutual funds or ETFs?

    Pick your poison. Explain caveats.

    Goal is long-term diversified investments, typically tracking indices (TSX, NASDAQ, S&P 500, EAFE, etc). From what I've determined, a mutual fund actually makes sense for these if I would be making regular smaller contributions (like ~$300 in each per month, for instance).

    Once the mutual fund holdings reach a sufficiently high value, I'd perhaps swap it for an ETF tracking the same indices. The goal here is to avoid the higher management fees with mutual funds longer-term, while avoiding the higher transactional costs of ETFs that I would otherwise incur monthly.

    Good idea, or bad?

    In general, mutual funds or ETFs or "it depends"?
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    Last edited by Asher; February 28, 2011, 03:48.
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    Follow-up question: Currency-neutral or no, for buying US index-tracking funds?

    Given the high value of the CDN dollar right now, my gut is telling me to avoid currency-neutral. Yes?
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      Cue Kuciwalker, "Asher knows nothing beyond a very narrow specialty of computers!"

      Asher, ETF's are a TYPE of mutual fund.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post


        Cue Kuciwalker, "Asher knows nothing beyond a very narrow specialty of computers!"

        Asher, ETF's are a TYPE of mutual fund.
        And you have a DEGREE in finance?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Asher View Post
          And you have a DEGREE in finance?
          Yes. I have a BBA in Finance.

          And yes, ETF's are a type of mutual fund.

          Are you trying to ask "actively managed mutual fund vs. ETF?"? "Open-ended vs. ETF?"?
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          • #6
            Why is there no banana option?



            Anyway, It depends.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
              Yes. I have a BBA in Finance.

              And yes, ETF's are a type of mutual fund.

              Are you trying to ask "actively managed mutual fund vs. ETF?"? "Open-ended vs. ETF?"?
              An ETF is not a mutual fund. Even an index-tracking mutual fund is not an index-tracking ETF.

              Get your **** together.
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              • #8
                Albie, mutual funds and ETFs are both open-ended funds. But an ETF is not a mutual fund.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Asher View Post
                  Albie, mutual funds and ETFs are both open-ended funds. But an ETF is not a mutual fund.
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_fund

                  Types of mutual funds
                  Open-end fund, forms of organization, other funds
                  Exchange-traded funds
                  And you're right. ETF's are open-ended. I was tripping. What threw me off are that they can be traded above or below NAV.


                  And don't mock me. I haven't worked in this field and am 3 years stale.
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                  • #10
                    Do you want to define what these are? They may be know by different names in other financial systems.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_fund



                      And you're right. ETF's are open-ended. I was tripping. What threw me off are the NAV's.
                      If you twist the definition of mutual funds to mean an open-ended fund, then yes it's a mutual fund.

                      Anyone with more than $5 to their name wish to join the conversation now?
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                      • #12
                        I have a snowboard heavy portfolio.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
                          Do you want to define what these are? They may be know by different names in other financial systems.
                          I think you call mutual funds unit trusts in the UK. Or ICVCs.

                          I don't know about exchange-traded funds in the UK. Aren't they the same?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            If you twist the definition of mutual funds to mean an open-ended fund, then yes it's a mutual fund.

                            Anyone with more than $5 to their name wish to join the conversation now?
                            I said don't mock me. I haven't worked in this field and am 3 years stale.

                            Don't work in computers at all after receiving your Comp Sci degree and see how much you can remember accurately on the spot after 3 years.
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                            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                            • #15
                              I wouldn't mock you if you didn't jump in to tell me I'm wrong when I was right.
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