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  • #16
    Anyone watch "An Idiot Abroad"? The one where he gets kidnapped in Israel is hilarious... ergo, Israel is funny.
    Monkey!!!

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    • #17
      Ab-poor analogy. Religious marriages by way of inconvenience (can always go to cyprus) is unacceptable. Not analogous to stoning. Reference to shariah is sometimes inaccurate as it presumes single definition of the term. But reference to shariah necessary in explaining how groups like hamas or muslim brotherhood think about the world.
      Oerdin--refer you to barry rubin's articles for good analysis of Egyptian crisis. His website has them for quick reference but they are published regularly in some newspapers.
      "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
        No. What's funny is it comes from HC... you know, the guy in favor the explicitly JEWISH state of Israel.
        I don't know if HC has any preferences for Israel, but if you claim that american laws isn't religious based, then you are stupid (ok, more stupid than expected since it's you).
        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

        Steven Weinberg

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
          I don't know if HC has any preferences for Israel
          Where have you been?!

          HC suckles from the Zionist teat!
          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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          • #20
            Al, you suck seriously on evasive actions

            Now, please tell me why amarican laws isn't religious based
            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

            Steven Weinberg

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            • #21
              ? Which laws are you thinking of/referring to?
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              • #22
                Eew, you are spoiling the fun

                Gay marriage and abortion laws is pretty obvious.

                Another point is that the US president have to call for god almost every time he opens his mouth.
                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                Steven Weinberg

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                • #23
                  Gay marriage, I grant you. Abortion is not an explicitly religious issue, though it has been taken over by the religious right. And the president talking is not a law. You're 1 for 3 there.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                    Al, you suck seriously on evasive actions

                    Now, please tell me why amarican laws isn't religious based
                    Did I ever say they weren't? Work on your English, Dane. You're translations are screwed up.
                    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                      Did I ever say they weren't? Work on your English, Dane. You're translations are screwed up.

                      Well, then I guess that you are a supporter of sharia and the results of implementing that
                      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                      Steven Weinberg

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                      • #26
                        He also didn't say he approved of opposition to gay marriage or whatever other religious law you care to name.
                        Last edited by Elok; February 7, 2011, 21:15. Reason: Grammar-Nazi'ed myself, *****es!
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                          Well, then I guess that you are a supporter of sharia and the results of implementing that
                          Ever heard of 'the fallacy of the excluded middle'?
                          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Elok View Post
                            Gay marriage, I grant you. Abortion is not an explicitly religious issue, though it has been taken over by the religious right. And the president talking is not a law. You're 1 for 3 there.
                            Don't try to be funny - abortion is certainly a religious issue.

                            About the president - please tell what the chances for a non religious candidate are for being elected or for that matter how a president claiming to be nonreligious would be treated.
                            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                            Steven Weinberg

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                              Ever heard of 'the fallacy of the excluded middle'?
                              Oh, you say that you are religious based, but really doesn't mean it for serious ?
                              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                              Steven Weinberg

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                                Don't try to be funny - abortion is certainly a religious issue.
                                Which is why Christopher Hitchens is reportedly pro-life? Abortion is an issue in which one position is strongly associated with religiosity. That does not make it a strictly religious issue. Religious people in the US are also more likely to support homeschooling and gun ownership. That doesn't mean you need to believe in Jesus or Allah or L. Ron Hubbard to teach your own kid or own a Glock.

                                About the president - please tell what the chances for a non religious candidate are for being elected or for that matter how a president claiming to be nonreligious would be treated.
                                Very low and very badly, respectively. However, you said our laws were religiously based, not that our populace is prejudiced against the irreligious. Two entirely different things.

                                EDIT: Wiki says Hitchens believes a fetus is an unborn child, but for some reason endorses medical (drug-based, non-surgical) abortion. Makes no sense to me, but anyway, he's apparently pro-life to some weird extent.
                                Last edited by Elok; February 7, 2011, 21:27.
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