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  • #61
    Originally posted by Elok View Post
    True enough. But the majority--glyptodonts, giant sloths, mammoths, all the gigantic variants of today's animals--kicked the bucket, and which factors played how much of a role in which places is debatable.
    The main point is, I think, that all of the megafauna in America got extinct (there was even a species of horse... seing how feral modern horses quickly boomed over here, the climate wasn't exactly inhospitable...)
    Indifference is Bliss

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
      Climate change clearly played a huge role. I could be wrong but I don't think the climate of Sub-Saharan Africa or South America changed much at all after the Ice Age, compared to the large-scale changes that occurred in Northern Eurasia and North America where species of megafauna went extinct in large numbers.
      But there were extintions in South America too, and the climate here didn't change as much as in the north.

      In any case, the world got warmer... I can see the more cold-adapted species being really at a disadvantage, but the tropical and temperate species just saw their ecosystems expand.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Elok View Post
        Okay, so what was the point you were making?
        I forgot.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
          Climate change clearly played a huge role. I could be wrong but I don't think the climate of Sub-Saharan Africa or South America changed much at all after the Ice Age, compared to the large-scale changes that occurred in Northern Eurasia and North America where species of megafauna went extinct in large numbers.
          Flu wiped them out.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
            It makes perfect sense and is widely documented.
            It doesn't make a damn bit of sense unless you assume a herd of mammoths is too ****ing stupid to realize that humans are dangerous after the first of their number gets speared to death.

            I won't even get into seeming support of Lamarckism.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Elok View Post
              Cite, please. "This is new and strange to me; I'll just assume it's safe and ignore it" is the dumbest survival instinct imaginable, except perhaps "Ooh, a bright, hot red light in the forest! I'd better lie down and go to sleep." Any wild animal that tamely walked up to strange animals would find itself very quickly removed from the population. ...

              Oh, and if we're talking about herd animals--like mammoths, in all likelihood--they'll learn to distrust humans pretty quickly when Ook-Ook and D'leh start bringing down their herdmates.


              I take back almost everything bad I ever said about you.

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              • #67
                Drake, the reason Elok is wrong is that animals that are much larger than humans might assume that the humans would leave them alone, and that they outmatch the humans. But in general, I think Elok is right.
                If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Tupac Shakur View Post


                  I take back almost everything bad I ever said about you.
                  Almost, eh? You just can't forgive me for bashing "Something," I take it...
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                  • #69
                    He's hated you ever since you said something that could be construed as thinking that some people earn too much money.

                    I don't know why I remember that.
                    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                    • #70
                      No, the only thing I still hate him for is thinking that Africa is farther from Japan than the waters off Antarctica.

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                      • #71
                        Really? **** him!
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Tupac Shakur View Post
                          No, the only thing I still hate him for is thinking that Africa is farther from Japan than the waters off Antarctica.
                          I don't get it. Comparing the distances from South Africa to Antarctica and from Somalia to Japan, I'm pretty sure Africa is much closer to the waters off Antarctica.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                            Yes because it's so easy to pet wild deer. They just stand there as you get close.
                            Albert, you dumb ass, deer originally came from Eurasia. They didn't come to North America until the landbridge in the last iceage. It's mainly animals which are not from Africa or Eurasia which had long contact with humans as they were advancing. Yes, some animals were by nature more flighty then others but there are tons and tons of examples of species which didn't know to run and so got wiped out including most of the megafauna
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Tupac Shakur View Post
                              It doesn't make a damn bit of sense unless you assume a herd of mammoths is too ****ing stupid to realize that humans are dangerous after the first of their number gets speared to death.

                              I won't even get into seeming support of Lamarckism.
                              Elephants came from Eurasia and Africa, Drake. If you want some details then read some Jerrod Diamond and look up some of his citations because he discusses megafauna extinction in both G,G,&S and in Collapse.
                              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                              • #75
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