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  • #16
    Originally posted by Tupac Shakur View Post
    The Southern Ocean is not "right next door" to Japan, you imbecile.

    The Southern Ocean is also "halfway around the world" from Japan, just in a north-south direction rather than an east-west one. Distance means nothing to the Japanese!
    So I don't know their favored poaching grounds. Whatever. Nobody protects whales, and they're hunted in international waters far away from people. They don't have to bribe anybody or sneak around, or worry about overland transport. Or tropical diseases, or any of the other weird, horrible crap that goes on in Africa. They can go in, kill a whale openly and do whatever they want with the carcass, without danger.

    EDIT: Well, they do have to worry about storms, that's one danger.
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    • #17
      We need to bring passenger pigeons back. Now that's good eatin!
      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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      • #18
        To follow up on Elok's stupid point...

        Distance from Tokyo's Tsukiji Fish Market to Nairobi, Kenya = 6119 miles

        Distance from Tokyo's Tsukiji Fish Market to Sturge Island in the Southern Ocean = 6250 miles

        Learn some goddamn geography.

        Nobody protects whales, and they're hunted in international waters far away from people. They don't have to bribe anybody or sneak around, or worry about overland transport. Or tropical diseases, or any of the other weird, horrible crap that goes on in Africa. They can go in, kill a whale openly and do whatever they want with the carcass, without danger.




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        • #19
          Look, the real point has nothing to do with distance and everything to do with enforcement.

          There are effectively no legal restrictions placing a wedge between the (internalized) cost of producing whale meat and consuming it in Japan. On the other hand, there is a significant legal wedge for elephant meat. I don't know what the cost of raising and slaughtering mammoths will be, but if we can get it down to an effective price delivered to supermarkets of under 10$ a pound of meat I can guarantee that there will be a real market for it.
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          • #20
            Actually, if you had taken the time to do some research, you would've discovered that elephant meat develops an unpleasant smell and taste shortly after the animal is killed. I imagine mammoth to be similar, preventing any real market existing for mammoth meat.

            edit: Apparently elephant meat is good if you smoke it right away, however, so maybe there is a chance.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Elok View Post
              To really do that title right, you should have said "Science-studying scientists trying and attempting to clone, resurrect extinct mammoth." That would have been totally clear. Or at least more clear than how a single baby mammoth can have an ecology.
              There are dozens if not hundreds of preserved specimens. Sure, it's not a extremely wide gene pool plus who knows how the genetics drifted over the beginning of the species and the extinction of the species but endangered species have been saved with less so why couldn't clones do the same?
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              • #22
                Tupac

                What utter nonsense. I doubt you've ever killed OR eaten elephant, unlike some of us.
                Last edited by KrazyHorse; January 17, 2011, 18:22. Reason: Tupac
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Tupac Shakur View Post
                  To follow up on Elok's stupid point...

                  Distance from Tokyo's Tsukiji Fish Market to Nairobi, Kenya = 6119 miles

                  Distance from Tokyo's Tsukiji Fish Market to Sturge Island in the Southern Ocean = 6250 miles
                  Wow, you sure showed me up on this irrelevant argument you knew you were in the wrong on from the start and only adopted to be a contrarian ass, GJ!
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
                    There are dozens if not hundreds of preserved specimens. Sure, it's not a extremely wide gene pool plus who knows how the genetics drifted over the beginning of the species and the extinction of the species but endangered species have been saved with less so why couldn't clones do the same?
                    Iritani said, "once the mammoth is born, we'll examine its ecology."

                    Probably just a mistranslation by a journalist with babelfish or something, but I thought it sounded funny.
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                    • #25
                      Well,
                      I once saw a dog try to hump a cat.

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                      • #26
                        What? Take your prozac. Unless you did, in which case, ease off the prozac. It's gotta be one of the two.
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                        • #27
                          I was making a point.....

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                          • #28
                            If you mean the baby mammoth is going to hump a cat, I don't think that counts as "ecology."
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Elok View Post
                              If you mean the baby mammoth is going to hump a cat, I don't think that counts as "ecology."



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                              • #30
                                Okay, so what was the point you were making?
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