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  • #31
    What makes the NFL unique is the use of a salary cap and revenue sharing. Small market teams like the Green Bay Packers can not generate enough revenue on their own to stay afloat so big market teams like Dallas and Washington pay the Packers money to keep them afloat. The salary cap is also fixed so that big market teams which have more money can not have higher-paid players than the small market teams.

    Compare to the MLB where players like Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez make more money than the entire roster of the Tampa Rays or the KC Royals, what with big market teams like the Yankees and Red Sox spending several times more money than all the money several teams have combined.

    Those are the unique redistributive systems in the NFL, not the draft pick thing which is common in all American sports and I thought was universal world-wide but apparently you Europeans want to be stupid.
    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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    • #32
      What makes the NFL unique is the use of a salary cap and revenue sharing. Small market teams like the Green Bay Packers can not generate enough revenue on their own to stay afloat so big market teams like Dallas and Washington pay the Packers money to keep them afloat.
      my goodness. it's like lenin never died.

      Those are the unique redistributive systems in the NFL, not the draft pick thing which is common in all American sports and I thought was universal world-wide but apparently you Europeans want to be stupid.
      yet another thing you were wrong about.
      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

      "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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      • #33
        You people are stupid over there. How the hell do you maintain competition and parity if the best prospects out of college/high school don't go to the worst teams? It'll be like NCAA Football where schools that are good attract all the top prospects and so stay good whereas the smaller or not as good schools need to work extra hard to be competitive because they can't attract the best talent. It doesn't work like that anywhere in professional American sports.
        "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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        • #34
          And it's not like Lenin... we're talking a huge multi-billion dollar monopoly here that consists of collusion between 32 different owners.
          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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          • #35
            al, the rest of world is not similar to the US in terms of professional sports. not in the sports played and not in the way they are organised. it's shocking that you don't know this.

            most sports and countries embrace competition and excellence. survival of the fittest, things like that. not all this communist revenue sharing and draft picking.
            "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

            "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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            • #36
              In America, we want the underdogs to have a chance at succeeding. We don't like powerhouse teams except in college oddly. Why do you think people hate the Yankees?
              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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              • #37
                Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
                al, the rest of world is not similar to the US in terms of professional sports. not in the sports played and not in the way they are organised. it's shocking that you don't know this.

                most sports and countries embrace competition and excellence. survival of the fittest, things like that. not all this communist revenue sharing and draft picking.
                And yet the US dominates come the Olympics and we're pretty good at the World Cup.
                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                  In America, we want the underdogs to have a chance at succeeding.
                  so you give them money from successful teams and the pick of the best new resources (players). sounds pretty red to me.
                  "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                  "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                    You people are stupid over there. How the hell do you maintain competition and parity if the best prospects out of college/high school don't go to the worst teams?
                    Among a relatively small market of 300 million split between 3 'major' sports (American football, Baseball, Basketball) then every minnow team needs support to stay competitive, otherwise you will end up with only a few major teams

                    When you are dealing with the primary sport of 3 BIllion (Europe, the Commonwealth, south America, Africa etc etc) then supporting minnow teams becomes less important. If there are 2 major teasm per country then the elite can still compete, instead of having a monopoly on success.

                    I can see a small closed league like American football or Scottish football having dull and predictable winners unless some kind of throttle on excellence is imposed
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                    • #40
                      @grib

                      Socialism is a spectrum, and Obama is further along it than most Americans. To many Americans he seems socialist but to European socialists he seems downright conservative. It's because we're viewing a different part of the spectrum.
                      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                        @grib

                        Socialism is a spectrum, and Obama is further along it than most Americans. To many Americans he seems socialist but to European socialists he seems downright conservative. It's because we're viewing a different part of the spectrum.
                        You must have a strange definition of socialism. btw I don't really think Obama is a socialist.

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                        • #42
                          Socialism is a spectrum


                          This isn't actually what you are trying to say.

                          Also, to many Americans he seems "socialist" because they're insane. Many or most of those people would consider him fascist as well.

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                          • #43
                            Among those who acknowledge that outright state control of enterprise is economic madness, there is a spectrum of persons who think, for varying reasons, that the regulation, ownership or control of various enterprises is necessary. These people are to that extent capitalists. For whatever reason, persons who think more control or regulation is necessary in one industry may also tend to think that the same is necessary for another industry. Perhaps this is an example of reasoning by analogy. In some instances it could also be an example of groupthink. Along this "spectrum", European capitalist parties are more likely to favour governmental control or regulation than American capitalist parties.

                            Also, this topic is just like Hitler.
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                            • #44
                              I've always thought it funny that the "super-capitalist" US has the most socialist sports leagues, while the "socialist" European countries have the most free market sports leagues.
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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                              • #45
                                And yet the sports leagues that are what you would call "socialist" are not government entities so another competing sports league could just spring up beside it...
                                If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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