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    Christmas has been banned by the Red Cross from its 430 fund-raising shops.
    Staff have been ordered to take down decorations and to remove any other signs of the Christian festival because they could offend Moslems.
    The charity's politically-correct move triggered an avalanche of criticism and mockery last night - from Christians and Moslems.
    Christine Banks, a volunteer at a Red Cross shop in New Romney, Kent, said: 'We put up a nativity scene in the window and were told to take it out. It seems we can't have anything that means Christmas. We're allowed to have some tinsel but that's it.
    'When we send cards they have to say season's greetings or best wishes. They must not be linked directly to Christmas.
    'When we asked we were told it is because we must not upset Moslems.'
    Mrs Banks added: ' We have been instructed that we can't say anything about Christmas and we certainly can't have a Christmas tree.
    ' I think the policy is offensive to Moslems as well as to us. No reasonable person can object to Christians celebrating Christmas. But we are not supposed to show any sign of Christianity at all.'
    Labour peer Lord Ahmed, one of the country's most prominent Moslem politicians, said: 'It is stupid to think Moslems would be offended.
    'The Moslem community has been talking to Christians for the past 1,400 years. The teachings from Islam are that you should respect other faiths.'
    He added: 'In my business all my staff celebrate Christmas and I celebrate with them. It is absolutely not the case that Christmas could damage the Red Cross reputation for neutrality - I think their people have gone a little bit over the top.'
    The furore is a fresh blow to the image of what was once one of Britain's most respected charities.
    The British Red Cross lost friends this year over its support for the French illegal immigrant camp at Sangatte and its insistence on concentrating large efforts on helping asylum seekers.
    Yesterday officials at the charity's London HQ confirmed that Christmas is barred from the 430 shops which contributed more than £20million to its income last year.
    'The Red Cross is a neutral organisation and we don't want to be aligned with any political party or particular philosophy,' a spokesman said.
    'We don't want to be seen as a Christian or Islamic or Jewish organisation because that might compromise our ability to work in conflict situations around the world.'
    He added: 'In shops people can put up decorations like tinsel or snow which are seasonal. But the guidance is that things representative of Christmas cannot be shown.'
    Volunteers, however, said they believed the Christmas ban was a product of political correctness of the kind that led Birmingham's leaders to order their city to celebrate 'Winterval'.
    Rod Thomas, a Plymouth vicar and spokesman for the Reform evangelical grouping in the Church of England, said: 'People who hold seriously to their faith are respected by people of other faiths. They should start calling themselves the Red Splodge. All their efforts will only succeed in alienating most people.'
    Major Charles Heyman, editor of Jane's World Armies, said: 'There is really nothing to hurt the Red Cross in Christmas, is there? Would the Red Crescent stop its staff observing Ramadan?
    'In practice, the role of the Red Cross is to run prisoner- of-war programmes and relief efforts for civilians. Those activities require the agreement of both sides in a conflict in the first place. Celebrating Christmas in a shop in England could hardly upset that.'
    Major Heyman added: 'Moslems are just as sensible about these things as Christians. The Red Cross is just engaging in a bit of political correctness.'
    British Red Cross leaders have, however, not extended the ban to their own profitable products. Items currently on sale include Christmas cards featuring angels and wise men and Advent calendars with nativity scenes.
    The spokesman said: 'The Red Cross is trying to be inclusive and we recognise there are lots of people who want to buy Christmas cards which they know will benefit us.'
    The charity's umbrella body, the Swiss-based International Red Cross, has also had politically-correct doubts about its famous symbol. But efforts to find an alternative were abandoned in the face of protest and ridicule five years ago.
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  • #2
    Makes sense - Red Cross isn't a reilgious organisation.
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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    • #3
      Cool deal. One less charity vying for my money.
      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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      • #4
        In the end, there can be only one.
        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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        • #5
          Do you have a link (and a reputable one) bc? I've heard this crap that in my country that Christmas has been banned by this and that organisation that never actually turns out to be true...
          Speaking of Erith:

          "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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          • #6
            Found the article...

            Christmas has been banned by the Red Cross from its 430 shops. Staff have been ordered to take down decorations


            The Daily Mail...haha, must be true then
            Speaking of Erith:

            "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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            • #7
              It's a meme from years ago. Heck this BBC article from 2002 had the same references:

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              The Red Cross has denied it has tried to "ban Christmas" from its charity shops.

              Staff were told not to set up nativity scenes, Christmas trees or decorations with Christian symbols in case they offended Muslims and other non-Christians.

              One volunteer said the policy was "political correctness gone mad".

              But chief executive Sir Nicholas Young said on Saturday it had always been the organisation's policy not to display materials of an "overtly religious nature" in shop windows.

              He said the organisation had never been associated with any religion in accordance with its principles of impartiality and neutrality.

              "The British Red Cross has not 'banned Christmas'. Our volunteers and staff are welcome and actively encouraged to celebrate their own particular religions and festivals whenever and however they please," said Sir Nicholas.

              His remarks were sparked by Christine Banks, a volunteer at a Red Cross shop in Kent, who said the manager of her store had got a Christmas tree for the shop.

              Christmas tree

              She told the BBC: "He had to take it back out again because he was told we weren't allowed to have anything like that, or anything that was to do with Christmas or Christians.

              "This was because we were told the Red Cross doesn't want to offend Muslims."

              Labour peer Lord Ahmed, one of the country's most prominent Muslim politicians, told the Daily Mail newspaper it was "stupid" to think Muslims would be offended.

              He added: "The Muslim community has been talking to Christians for the past 1,400 years.

              "The teachings from Islam are that you should respect other faiths."

              Confirming the ban at the charity's 430 shops, Sir Nicholas said: "It has always been a policy at the British Red Cross not to display materials of an overtly religious nature in shop windows or elsewhere.

              "Doing so runs the risk of identifying us with one particular faith."

              He said the international organisation had a "unique role" in ensuring the safe passage of civilians, medical staff, messages and relief supplies during conflicts.

              "To do so successfully, to be trusted by all sides, it is essential that we are not seen to be linked with any political groups, religious organisations or particular communities," he added.

              "It is vital that we continue to do so, wherever and whenever we can."
              One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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              • #8
                Banning X-mas stuff - even if true - would just be a cover up for the fact that those medical crusaders still use the red cross all the time
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                • #9
                  The said thing is that enough idiots like bc will believe this tripe and it will actually effect donations to the Red Cross, which in turn might very well negatively effect the lives of a lot people in need, if not lead to avoidable deaths. And how Christian a thing would that be?
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                  • #10
                    Christians get upset when people don't go along with their fantasies.
                    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                    • #11
                      Muslims get upset when people continue with their terrible infidel ways
                      Speaking of Erith:

                      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                      • #12
                        Boycotts are better than bombs.
                        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                        • #13
                          Depends if you're the one bombing* or getting bombed.

                          *unless we talk suicide bombings
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                          • #14
                            This brings me to the idea of suicide boycotts
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                            • #15
                              The ultimate denial of the consumer dollar.
                              "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                              "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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