Does anyone else yearn for a society based on inequality?

[DaShi]

It's the same train of thought.

If I was better looking or more charming or wealthier Tyra Banks may well have desired my company.

Freedom of association is important because people aren't interchangeable. The second post was me pointing out that the same (aren't completely interchangeable) is true of populations in certain respects.

You said sucky countries are the result of sucky inhabitants, which has nothing to do with your really stupid Tyra Banks analogy. You're actually argument is that some people don't like darkies because they believe them to be sucky, so they don't want to associate with them. And then you say you don't hate darkies.

[DaShi]

So you're suggesting that any group of people can secede from a country for any reason? If the world disintegrates into tens of thousands of microstates, what mechanism will keep peace between them?

Hera has no clue how society works. That's why he needs a book to learn how to pick up women. So long as it's spelled out simply, he can usually follow along. The minute he has to think for himself, he falls apart.

[DaShi]

I don't hate "darkies". What is your problem?

I just demonstrated how your earlier post basically said, "I hate darkies."

[DaShi]

You know what the great thing about Hera is: I am too young to have been in WWII.

[Heraclitus]

You said sucky countries are the result of sucky inhabitants, which has nothing to do with your really stupid Tyra Banks analogy. You're actually argument is that some people don't like darkies because they believe them to be sucky, so they don't want to associate with them. And then you say you don't hate darkies.

People don't mind what you call "darkies". They do mind violent crime.
People don't mind Latin Americans, they do mind corruption.
People don't mind Swedes, they do mind more votes for Feminist and Green parties.

[Heraclitus]

I just demonstrated how your earlier post basically said, "I hate darkies."

Quote the bit where I "basically" say that.

[DaShi]

People don't mind what you call "darkies". They do mind violent crime.
People don't mind Latin Americans, they do mind corruption.
People don't mind Swedes, they do mind more votes for Feminist and Green parties.

And what do darkies, spicies, and freezies have to do with any of those?

[Heraclitus]

You know what the great thing about Hera is: I am too young to have been in WWII.

Caling me a Nazi is uncalled for. Godwin btw.

[DaShi]

Let's play a game: Guess how many times Hera will edit his posts because he's too stupid to form complete thoughts.

I say 8.

[DaShi]

Caling me a Nazi is uncalled for. Godwin btw.

Yeah, I thought I'd give you an easy meme to repeat. Much better than making you think. YOU'RE WELCOME.

[DaShi]

Yes there is. For example children of Black doctors and lawyers have on average lower IQs than children of Korean janitors. Regression towards the mean shows that different peoples regress to different means. Also while scores may go up or down, unless when the tests are made easier, despite the massive investments and endless educational crusades the gaps have remained nearly constant for the last few decades.





It doesn't matter if this is genetic or not, the approaches tried so far have clearly failed. What is wrong with countries waiting until someone figures out a solution before importing a under-performing population?



It's the same train of thought.

If I was better looking or more charming or wealthier Tyra Banks may well have desired my company.

Freedom of association is important because people aren't interchangeable. The second post was me pointing out that the same (aren't completely interchangeable) is true of populations in certain respects.

Go back to the previous threads where all this was shown to be crap. Or has your small mind forgotten it already?

[Heraclitus]

And what do darkies, spicies, and freezies have to do with any of those?

Blacks have higher rates of violent crime than Asians.
First generation Mexican Americans have less harsh views of corruption.
Swedes vote liberal and their kids continue to vote liberal at a higher rates than say Americans or Japanese.

If you tried to take any immigration or other government policy and tried to direct it to work against the last part of the sentences the result would be disparate impact against the groups mentioned.

[DaShi]

Quote the bit where I "basically" say that.

I see I need to be more explicit. People and cultures differ. Sucky countries are mostly sucky because they are inhabited by darkies who suck at building a country that doesn't suck. Whether the reason is genetic, cultural or astrological is irrelevant as long as the suckiness persists for years and generations after the plucking them from their old society and putting them in a new one the argument stand.

Then you pretty much proved my point with this gem:

People don't mind what you call "darkies". They do mind violent crime.
People don't mind Latin Americans, they do mind corruption.
People don't mind Swedes, they do mind more votes for Feminist and Green parties.

[Heraclitus]

Go back to the previous threads where all this was shown to be crap. Or has your small mind forgotten it already?

No it wasn't. There is a general consensus among psychometry experts that the IQ gaps are real not artefacts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstr...n_Intelligence

1. "Intelligence is a very general mental capability ... it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings ..."
2. "Intelligence, so defined, can be measured, and intelligence tests measure it well. They are among the most accurate (in technical terms, reliable and valid) of all psychological tests and assessments."
3. "While there are different types of intelligence tests, they all measure the same intelligence."
4. "The spread of people along the IQ continuum ... can be represented well by the ... ‘normal curve'."
5. "Intelligence tests are not culturally biased"
6. "The brain processes underlying intelligence are still little understood"
7. "Members of all racial-ethnic groups can be found at every IQ level"
8. "The bell curve for whites is centered roughly around IQ 100; the bell curve for American blacks roughly around 85; and those for different subgroups of Hispanics roughly midway between those for whites and blacks. The evidence is less definitive for exactly where above IQ 100 the bell curves for Jews and Asians are centered"
9. "IQ is strongly related, probably more so than any other single measureable human trait, to many important educational, occupational, economic, and social outcomes ... Whatever IQ tests measure, it is of great practical and social importance"
10. "A high IQ is an advantage because virtually all activities require some reasoning and decision-making"
11. "The practical advantages of having a higher IQ increase as life’s settings become more complex"
12. "Differences in intelligence certainly are not the only factor affecting performance in education, training, and complex jobs ... but intelligence is often the most important"
13. "Certain personality traits, special talents, [etc] are important ... in many jobs, but they have narrower (or unknown) applicability or ‘transferability’ across tasks and settings compared with general intelligence"
14. "Heritability estimates range from 0.4 to 0.8 ... indicating genetics plays a bigger role than environment in creating IQ differences"
15. "Members of the same family also tend to differ substantially in intelligence"
16. "That IQ may be highly heritable does not mean that it is not affected by the environment ... IQs do gradually stabilize during childhood, however, and generally change little thereafter"
17. "Although the environment is important in creating IQ differences, we do not know yet how to manipulate it"
18. "Genetically caused differences are not necessarily irremediable"
19. "There is no persuasive evidence that the IQ bell curves for different racial-ethnic groups are converging"
20. "Racial-ethnic differences in IQ bell curves are essentially the same when youngsters leave high school as when they enter first grade ... black 17-year-olds perform, on the average, more like white 13-year-olds"
21. "The reasons that blacks differ among themselves in intelligence appear to be the same as those for why whites ... differ among themselves"
22. "There is no definitive answer as to why bell curves differ across racial-ethnic groups. The reasons for these IQ differences between groups may be markedly different from the reasons for why individuals differ among themselves within any particular group"
23. "Racial-ethnic differences are somewhat smaller but still substantial for individuals from the same socio-economic backgrounds"
24. "Almost all Americans who identify themselves as black have white ancestors – the white admixture is about 20% ... research on intelligence relies on self-classification into distinct racial categories"
25. "The research findings neither dictate nor preclude any particular social policy, because they can never determine our goals"

Also test results show the gaps are stable and have been so for decades despite all the expensive interventions. Like I said I couldn't care less whether the cause is genetic or environmental but the pattern is there, ignoring it in for example immigration policy is suboptimal for the existing citizens whatever their ethnicity.

[DaShi]

Blacks have higher rates of violent crime than Asians.
First generation Mexican Americans have less harsh views of corruption.
Swedes vote liberal and their kids continue to vote liberal at a higher rates than say Americans or Japanese.

If you tried to take any immigration or other government policy and tried to direct it to work against the last part of the sentences the result would be disparate impact against the groups mentioned.

So you're argument is that getting rid of blacks will get rid of crime. Getting rid of Mexicans will get rid of corruption. And getting rid of Swedes will get rid of liberals. Are you really this stupid? Or is it all just an act?