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  • #16
    some people in this thread certainly don't understand the point of voting and what it means.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Asher View Post
      Is there some kind of obvious connection between voting and someone's parents' health coverage?

      I seem to be missing it.

      In Canada, you're eligible for your parents' health care insurance after 18 years old only if you are a student (and therefore unlikely to have your own insurance).

      Is it different in your communist country?
      The point is that if you're too young to be able to pay for your own healthcare, you are too young to understand the real world since you're still being sheltered by your precious parents.

      She's making a dig at the healthcare law. Covering kids up to 26 is retarded and absurd.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
        The point is that if you're too young to be able to pay for your own healthcare, you are too young to understand the real world since you're still being sheltered by your precious parents.

        She's making a dig at the healthcare law. Covering kids up to 26 is retarded and absurd.
        It most certainly is not. Why the hell should college students have to pay for your obscenely expensive medical insurance? College is expensive enough as it is. Jesus Christ.

        If somebody is working full-time at 19, 20, etc then they should not be covered by their parents' -- they are responsible adults.

        But if you are still getting an education instead of working full time, it is asinine to ask students to pay for their own health insurance on top of living accommodations, life essentials, college tuition, textbooks, etc.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Asher View Post
          It most certainly is not. Why the hell should college students have to pay for your obscenely expensive medical insurance? College is expensive enough as it is. Jesus Christ.
          You are so ****ing stupid.

          FIRST OF ALL. People graduate from 4-year colleges at TWENTY TWO. That is FOUR YEARS EARLIER than 26. Add in 2 years for a master's degree if you want and that's still TWENTY FOUR.

          SECONDLY. Do you think it makes the insurance any less expensive to force them to support kids up to 26 as opposed to giving parents the option to purchase such a plan? If yes, have you ever suffered brain damage?
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          • #20
            Let me amend: Asher is extremely smart when talking about anything OTHER than insurance. Or the military.
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            • #21
              To make this even more ridiculous, I know a number of people who are MARRIED AND HAVE KIDS at the age of 26*. What the ****.

              *Or married and had kids at that age, and now they are older, but the point stands.
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              • #22
                I'm directly benefiting from the extension to 26. I only have part time work that offers no health insurance and I'm in graduate school. I'm getting surgery in January and without health coverage, I would have to pay around $6,000 out of pocket.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                  You are so ****ing stupid.

                  FIRST OF ALL. People graduate from 4-year colleges at TWENTY TWO. That is FOUR YEARS EARLIER than 26. Add in 2 years for a master's degree if you want and that's still TWENTY FOUR.
                  Not if you take a gap year, you work for a couple years and then go back to school, or you go for a PhD, etc. I know TONS of people still doing post-secondary education at 26.

                  You seem to have no concept of how other people function in this world. Not everyone is you.

                  SECONDLY. Do you think it makes the insurance any less expensive to force them to support kids up to 26 as opposed to giving parents the option to purchase such a plan? If yes, have you ever suffered brain damage?
                  I think it is quite obvious that if it was not required of insurance companies, no companies would offer it -- or if they did offer it, the cost of such a system would be so high that companies would not ever get it.

                  The end result is your country will put further disincentives into post-secondary education by increasing the real-world cost to the students. That is BAD for your country long-term.

                  Let me amend: Asher is extremely smart when talking about anything OTHER than insurance. Or the military.
                  Your problem is very simple: lack of perspective. People aren't stupid for having different political opinions than you -- in fact, you are stupid for thinking others stupid for having a different view on politics.

                  I think it's ****ing retarded to ask 18 year old freshmen to pay for health insurance. Do you have any concept of how expensive health insurance is, HC? Do you have any concept of how expensive tuition is? Textbooks? Lodging and food? You've not ever gone to college, you've never lived outside of your parents' house with 18 bathrooms -- how can we expect you to understand the financial burden college students already face?
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                    To make this even more ridiculous, I know a number of people who are MARRIED AND HAVE KIDS at the age of 26*. What the ****.

                    *Or married and had kids at that age, and now they are older, but the point stands.
                    So ****ing what?

                    The law should be conditional, like Canada. I don't know if your country is smart enough for such nuance.

                    Only people attending schooling up to 26 should be eligible for their parents' insurance. If you're married with kids, chances are you're not attending school full-time and therefore would not be covered by their parents' insurance.

                    If your point is most people finish by 22, you're being incredibly stupid for many, many reasons. A few of which:
                    1) That's still 4 years without insurance
                    2) If the law only permits students to be eligible for their parents' coverage, than your *****ing about the age limit of 26 is absurd as EVERYONE FINISHES AT 22!!!! Right?
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #25


                      Some people take gap years and spend ages to pass college!

                      This law must be good for the entire country because it helps them!

                      Also, let's PASS AN AMENDMENT TO THE VIRGINIA CONSTITUTION EXEMPTING VETERANS FROM THE PROPERTY TAX.

                      Asher, if they didn't offer it, parents can PAY for their children's insurance just like they are their college education, it's the same amount of money either way.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Asher View Post
                        So ****ing what?

                        The law should be conditional, like Canada. I don't know if your country is smart enough for such nuance.
                        This law was never supposed to be passed. When Scott Brown was elected, Democrats said "aww **** it, let's pass it anyway" and left us with this **** sandwich.
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                        • #27
                          You're embarrassing yourself here.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            Why the hell should college students have to pay for your obscenely expensive medical insurance? College is expensive enough as it is. Jesus Christ.

                            Amen. Perfect rationale for doing away with the mandate.
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                            • #29
                              Asher seems to think you can make costs disappear by passing laws requiring companies to package more **** in with their products.

                              Two words: MAGICAL. THINKING.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                                Asher seems to think you can make costs disappear by passing laws requiring companies to package more **** in with their products.

                                Two words: MAGICAL. THINKING.
                                I've not said that at all. The costs don't disappear, they get shifted.

                                What do you not understand here?

                                Are you too stupid to understand nuanced arguments, or are you just being a petulant child by misrepresenting arguments?
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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