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  • #16
    Were you expecting them to complain about liberals and democrats?
    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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    • #17
      Jon Stewart is as bipartisan as Bill Maher.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by rah View Post
        Were you expecting them to complain about liberals and democrats?
        No, that's my point.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
          I cannot recall Stewart ever suggesting that complaining was a reprehensible act. Additionally, if you're at a rally and you're not shouting, no one is going to hear you.
          Their fundamental thesis was that exaggerating stuff was bad, and yet if you were to look at the signs, you would get the sense that they thought exaggerating things was only bad if they didn't agree with it.

          They've defined reasonable to mean liberal, and it doesn't.

          For every sign whining about Glenn Beck and Fox News, how many did you see whining about Dennis Kucinich or Keith Olbermann or Michael Moore?
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          • #20
            Jon Stewart has always been a liberal. Comedy Central used to be a bit cooler because they followed up the Daily Show with Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn which had a decidedly conservative bias from Quinn but was more like a balanced and funnier Politically Incorrrect.
            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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            • #21
              I was channel surfing over the weekend and HBO was running one of those really old "new comedian anthologies". One of the young pups was Jon Stewart. His early non-political stuff was pretty funny. His delivery was quite recognizable.
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #22
                Tough Crowd Just a random episode...

                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                  Their fundamental thesis was that exaggerating stuff was bad, and yet if you were to look at the signs, you would get the sense that they thought exaggerating things was only bad if they didn't agree with it.

                  They've defined reasonable to mean liberal, and it doesn't.

                  For every sign whining about Glenn Beck and Fox News, how many did you see whining about Dennis Kucinich or Keith Olbermann or Michael Moore?
                  To begin, you've changed your argument. First, it was that the crowd complained and shouted hypocritically, and now it's that they exaggerate hypocritically. You're reaching too far to make the simple point that people - regardless of their stripe - are stupid and lack self-awareness. That fact is a given.

                  Additionally, reasonable may not mean liberal, but it also doesn't mean somewhere in between two opposing viewpoints. It is eminently possible that certain liberal points of view are reasonable and the conservative counter argument is not (and vice versa, of course).

                  And finally, if you've actually watched any Daily Show, you'd see that they rag on Keith Olbermann plenty.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                    Their fundamental thesis was that exaggerating stuff was bad, and yet if you were to look at the signs, you would get the sense that they thought exaggerating things was only bad if they didn't agree with it.

                    They've defined reasonable to mean liberal, and it doesn't.

                    For every sign whining about Glenn Beck and Fox News, how many did you see whining about Dennis Kucinich or Keith Olbermann or Michael Moore?
                    The fundamental thesis was that exaggerating was bad when you intend to be taken seriously. Stewart has repeated said that he is a comedian and should be laughed at. If Beck or Olbermann took the same attitude and were perceived as such I don't think he would have a problem with them. And Stewart did indeed go after Olbermann as much as Beck at the rally, I don't think he can be held responsible for the actions of the crowd.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                      The rally was fairly ironic. Considering the theme of working together and not shouting and complaining about things, they sure did a lot of shouting and complaining about Republicans.
                      Obviously, you didn't watch it. He pointed out problems with both sides.
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                      • #26
                        Okay let's slow down here and be honest with ourselves... Jon Stewart definitely has political biases, which he should have as he's a human being... He also has a fanbase that is definitely leaning in a certain direction and he, being a comic and showman first, has to play to his audience. Let's not act like Jon Stewart and his show are some bastions of enlightened centrism. There's a definite lean to the Daily Show.
                        "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                        • #27
                          Jon Stewart may play to his audience, but not politically. He has been quite critical of the Democrats in Congress and even Obama.

                          The problem is that conservatives are too sensitive to any criticism and respond aggressively. This is why HC overlooked the criticisms of the Dems and focused only on the those of the Republicans.
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                          • #28
                            Stop BSing, DaShi. Maybe there's an element of anti-status quo going on, but his criticisms of Democrats are typically of the "Not doing enough" variety.
                            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                            • #29
                              I disagree with your amateur, unfounded assessment.
                              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                                Jon Stewart is as bipartisan as Bill Maher.
                                True, but Jon Stewart is actually funny, while Bill Maher only thinks he is.
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