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    Chilean miners found alive – but rescue will take four months

    Miners' challenge will be to maintain sanity during four months it will take to build underground escape tunnel

    Miners in Chile face four months trapped underground while an escape tunnel is built Link to this video
    Joy greeted the news that a group of Chilean miners trapped for 17 days deep inside a collapsed mine are all alive but the challenge now facing the 33 men is to maintain their sanity during the four months it will take to free them.

    A rescue probe that drilled down 2,257ft to the bottom of the San José mine made contact with the miners yesterday, who sent back a message reading: "All 33 of us are well inside the shelter."

    A note from the eldest of the trapped miners to his wife Lilian Ramirez indicated that the men were aware of the challenge facing them but confident that they would prove equal to it.

    "Even if we have to wait months to communicate … I want to tell everyone that I'm good and we'll surely come out OK," Mario Gómez, 63, wrote, scrawling the words on a sheet of notebook paper that the miners tied to the probe. "Patience and faith. God is great and the help of my God is going to make it possible to leave this mine alive."

    Video footage of one of the miners, taken with a small camera sent underground after receipt of the handwritten message, was obtained by CNN Chile. There has been no audio contact yet but the unnamed man appeared to be in good spirits.

    Chilean authorities intend to send microphones down to communicate with the miners directly. Food, water, medicine and other supplies will also be sent down into the mine.

    Rescue equipment from around the world is being rushed in to build an underground escape tunnel.

    But officials said it would take at least four months to carve a second shaft some 68cm in diameter, wide enough for the miners to be pulled up one by one.

    Davitt McAteer, assistant secretary for mine safety and health at the US Labor Department under Bill Clinton said the miners' survival after 17 days was unusual but he predicted that having made it this far, they would emerge physically fine.

    "The health risks in a copper and gold mine are pretty small if you have air, food and water," he said.

    But he said the stress of being trapped underground for a long period of time could be significant.

    "There is a psychological pattern there that we've looked at," McAteer said. However, he added: "They've established communication with the guys; there are people who can talk them through that."

    The miners were trapped on 5 August by a massive collapse in the roof of the mine, located outside the northern Chilean city of Copiapó. Mine officials had said the shelter's emergency air and food supplies would last only 48 hours.

    Gomez wrote that the miners had created a canal of fresh water and used electricity from a truck engine to rig up lighting deep inside the notoriously dangerous copper mine, apparently creating a makeshift refuge.

    From the day the mine collapsed, dozens of relatives staked out what they call Camp Hope near the mouth of the mine, where they built shrines and composed songs, hoping that rescue efforts would arrive in time to save the men.

    President Sebastián Piñera, who read out Gomez's note live on television, said: "All of Chile is crying with excitement and joy."
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/23/miners-trapped-alive-chile
    Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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    Last edited by ZEE; December 22, 2010, 20:08.
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    • #3
      Does ChileanPresident have anything to say about this? Just want to hear his perspective.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
        Does ChileanPresident have anything to say about this? Just want to hear his perspective.
        Apparently President Sebastián Piñera said "All of Chile is crying with excitement and joy."
        Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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        • #5
          They think it could take significantly less time than 4 months. I hope so. A lot can go wrong in 4 months.
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          • #6
            I'm pretty sure HC meant the poster, not the actual President of Chile.

            He posted a link to the news item at the spanish forum, but hasn't commented otherwise.
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            • #7
              Yeah, think of all the supplies 33 men will consume in 4 months. And the gas to keep their power going
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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              • #8
                Originally posted by rah View Post
                Yeah, think of all the supplies 33 men will consume in 4 months. And the gas to keep their power going
                I am guessing if they can send down and retrieve small objects , they can send down an electrical line or at least numerous flashlights.

                Hopefully this probe can traverse the shaft relatively quickly such that sending down food won't be too big an issue either

                Depending on the geology and the risks of triggering other collapses, it would be a fairly short piece of work to drill a number of very small shafts. These would not be useful for rescue but I would think that they should be able to supply the miners with pretty much anything that they need as long as it is small enough to fit in the hole
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                • #9
                  They're supposed to have supplies for that long in the shelter (required by law) IIRC.
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                  • #10
                    How would that possibly work? How they would detrmine by law the amount of food required? How would the amount of time be determined? This amount of food per day times 50 years?
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                    • #11
                      This is crazy. It's like Biodome or something.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                        How would that possibly work? How they would detrmine by law the amount of food required? How would the amount of time be determined? This amount of food per day times 50 years?
                        They are required to have shelters with food and water, and the one they are in reportedly has enough supplies to last them several months, so I suppose its determined by the amount of miners and the total volume of the mine (or the density of miners in working areas).

                        as for the psychological impact of being trapped for four months, I think it's suspicious that his happened less than a month before the Civ5 release
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                        • #13
                          So it was orchestrated by the mine owner in order to keep the miners from missing work due to playing Civ5?
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                          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                          • #14
                            Or by the miners in order to have 4 months of all-day Civ5
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                            • #15
                              playtesting conspiracy
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