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  • Iranian ayatollahs sanctioning good old temple whores: Mutah - fixed-term marrage

    Just stumbled over a link to this article about mutah, fixed-term marriage:


    Planet Iran Exclusive: Iranian regime’s sanctioned brothels at Imam Reza’s shrine in Mash’had

    July 18, 2010
    The following is a direct translation of the below Persian document:
    Bismellah al rahman a rahim
    Temporary Marriage (Marriage is among the traditions of the Prophet Mohammad)
    In order to elevate the spiritual atmosphere, create proper psychological conditions and tranquility of mind, the Province of the Quds’eh-Razavi of Khorassan has created centers for temporary marriage (just next door to the shrine) for those brothers who are on pilgrimage to the shrine of our eighth Imam, Imam Reza, and who are far away from their spouses.
    To that end, we call on all our sisters who are virgins, who are between the ages of 12 and 35 to cooperate with us. Each of our sisters who signs up will be bound by a two year contract with the province of the Quds’eh-Razavi of Khorassan and will be required to spend at least 25 days of each month temporarily married to those brothers who are on pilgrimage. The period of the contract will be considered as a part of the employment experience of the applicant. The period of each temporary marriage can be anywhere between 5 hours to 10 days. The prices are as follows:
    5 hour temporary marriage – 50,000 Tomans ($50 US)
    One day temporary marriage – 75,000 Tomans ($75 US)
    Two day temporary marriage – 100,000 Tomans ($100 US)
    Three day temporary marriage – 150,000 Tomans ($150 US)
    Between 4 and 10 day temporary marriage – 300,000 Tomans ($300 US)
    Our sisters who are virgins will receive a bonus of 100,000 Tomans ($100 US) for the removal of their hymen .
    After the expiration of the two year contract, should our sisters still be under 35 years of age and should they be so inclined, they can be added to the waiting list of those who are seeking long-term temporary marriage. The employed sisters are obligated to donate 5% of their earnings to the Shrine of Imam Reza. We ask that all the sisters who are interested in applying, to furnish two full-length photographs (fully hijabed and properly veiled), their academic diplomas, proof of their virginity and a certificate of good physical and psychological health which they can obtain through the health and human services of the township of their residence. Please forward all compiled material and send to the below address by the 31st of the month of Ordibehesht, 1389 (May 21st, 2010).

    Attention: For sisters who are below 14 years of age, a written consent from their fathers or male guardian is required.

    Address: Mash’had, Shrine of Imam Reza, Shaheed Navab-Safavi, Kossar passage, Bureau of Temporary Marriages
    or call Haji Mahmood Momtaz : 98/511/222-5790

    For further information, please refer to the Quds’eh Razavi website.


    Pretty sick, if you ask me.
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    Its not an entirely unknown concept in Islam. I Dont see how this is any worse than western prostitution
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    • #3
      Under 14 years of age is shocking. I don't have a real problem with 16 yearolds having sex if the culture wishes (although I understand why the age of consent is often 18 in the US, and think it is good and perhaps should even be later), but under 14 is just a little girl.



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      • #4
        16 seems like a reasonable age of consent to me. 14 is pushing it.
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        • #5
          I agree with you JM, Some countries have lower ages of consent which is fine. However I have an issue with young girls working as glorified prostitutes.

          It appears that in Islam puberty is the age that it is considered acceptable for a girl to marry, which is what these girls are legally doing
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          • #6
            There is a significant of a difference between a father/etc marrying his daughter off to someone who will provide for them/etc at 14/etc versus getting 150$ for a night.

            Which mostly won't even go to the girl, likely.

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            • #7
              Arranged marriages are pretty sick too, JM
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              • #8
                They have produced people who are in happy relationships for 1000s of years.

                I am definitely in favor of picking your mate, but I don't consider arranged marriages sick by default.

                And in societies where women need looked after, I can see them as very reasonable. Marriages in such societies are less about love and more about being provided for. If the woman is picking based on love, she is being a fool (in such societies).

                I think I remember reading that arranged marriages have a similar percentage who say they are in love after 20 years as marriages done the way we do in the west.

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                • #9
                  These are kind of arranged marriages. But I don't see arranged marriage as 100% wrong, as long as the couple have a choice. Some cultures have that. Now, forced marriages is something entirely else.

                  But this has been been controversial for some time in Islam. Only Shia has it, the sunnis condemn it. And even among shia it is seen as nothing else than glorified prostitution by many. Girls that engage in a mutah, which is a short term marriage of only some hours/days, are in a VERY bad position when they are trying to marry "for real". She has lost all value in the marriage market. For a girl in a traditional culture, that is serious business...
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
                    Girls that engage in a mutah, which is a short term marriage of only some hours/days, are in a VERY bad position when they are trying to marry "for real". She has lost all value in the marriage market. For a girl in a traditional culture, that is serious business...
                    This was my point, really.

                    It basically takes away her future material security, in a 'traditional' culture.

                    I can't really think of any cases where it would be in her best interests. If she was starving it would be better for her to marry for real. That would at least provide her a future.

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                    • #11
                      I began writing my reply before you posted.
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                      • #12
                        I meant the forced kind of arranged marriage, it for some reason did not occur to me that there was another kind.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
                          These are kind of arranged marriages. But I don't see arranged marriage as 100% wrong, as long as the couple have a choice. Some cultures have that. Now, forced marriages is something entirely else.
                          My Indian friends had choices, it was more that a match was suggested... they met and talked for a bit and if it was agreeable they got married after a few months.

                          I admit that it is from them is where I have most of my understanding of arranged marriages.

                          Logic however tells me that in 'traditional' cultures that a woman is going to care a lot more about whether a man can provide for her materially than emotionally/romatically.

                          JM
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Snotty View Post
                            Its not an entirely unknown concept in Islam. I Dont see how this is any worse than western prostitution


                            "the west does it too, evil west"

                            yes, government arranges legal and culturally widespread-accepted prostitution houses where you can "marry" girls for one night for certain amount of money. yes, you can "marry" girls for 1 night who are even less than 14 years old if their fathers agree. brilliant.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
                              (although I understand why the age of consent is often 18 in the US, and think it is good and perhaps should even be later),
                              Er, you think that perhaps legal adults shouldn't be able to consent to sex? Oooookay...
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