The Irish are **** suckers who should die...

[Hauldren Collider]

I don't know a single person who goes on about his/her irish ancestry and isn't like, first or second generation immigrant.

[MikeH]

Go for a beer next St Patricks day.

[Jon Miller]

Doesn't even need to be St Patricks day.

JM

[Barnabas]

Well Provost doesn't support people who apply situations that are centuries out of date to present day situations.

So when are you going to give those southern states back to Mexico?

I am not a yank

Go Mexican Reconquista! Go go!

[MikeH]

Doesn't even need to be St Patricks day.

JM

Good point.

Then again he's like 12 isn't he. Probably not old enough to go to a bar yet.

[Hauldren Collider]

That troll makes you sound about my age.

[Cort Haus]

What would happen if in 5 of the 6 counties Unionists became the majority to the point that in a "national" Northern Irish election the option of joining the rest of Ireland would win?

Would the English let that happen? Or would they let those 5 counties join Ireland while keeping the sixth one as a kind of Gibraltar colony?

I bet the second option would happen. The British colonial empire nowadays exists the tabloid reading underclass + many tories get nationalistic kicks out of owning little parts of far away countries that remind them of their XIX century Importance.

The will of the current occupiers doesn't matter, the English will never completely leave Ireland in spite of all the suffering they have caused there (Population going from 8 million to slightly over 4 million in the XIX century when the rest of the world had a population boom).

I bet Provost supports Turkish Cyprus.

English, English, English. The obsessive stupidity is tedious. It's not the English that constitute the UK, but the British. That basically means the centuries-old union between England and Scotland in which Scotland has played a huge role. Constitutionally, Scotland dominates England today.

When will you new-worlders eventually comprehend this?

[Cort Haus]

I am speaking about the native Irish minority. Of course the English natives are happy with the current situation, but still is not their land. Northern Ireland is Irish, not British.

English, English , English. The pro-British N.I. component is mostly descended from Scots. When will you ***** get this?

[MikeH]

That troll makes you sound about my age.

Thank you!

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

The vanquished populations would have reached prosperity and civilization even without the "help" of the Brits.

Oh, be fair. This is the Irish, Scots and Welsh we're talking about.

[Frozzy]

"Conquering" is not a synonym of "Civilizing". The vanquished populations would have reached prosperity and civilization even without the "help" of the Brits. Beyond that, to have a better army is not necessarily a sign of civilization. The Roman Empire was founded by ignorant rapist shepherds and only thanks to the Greeks they evolved into the "refined" Latin culture, so to speak.
I love England and English people as well, but surely it would be hypocritical to gloss over the British expansionist attitude with the mere excuse of "bringing civilization".

Said that, I seriously doubt that people in Northern Ireland are happy to remain with the UK; of course, you have to consider that most of the NI population is composed by the offspring of the conquerors: surely, being they English by culture and origins, they feel themselves more as citizens of the UK rather than rightfully Irish, but what about the Irish natives? Many of them fleed in the Eire and left their land to the English. If something will change, more likely NI will obtain total independence by both Eire and UK, as like what happened in South Africa, because the natives are just a minority and the newborn Northern Irish generations have a brand-new national identity.

And about the song that opened this thread... the IRA surrendered to the Brits.

You could have saved us all a lot of time by just writing "I do not know what I am talking about, so please discard my opinion."

[Theben]

Or is this something to do with Athelstan?

Athelstan? You guys were Muslims back then? No wonder you kill everybody!

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Americans? Did that make sense to you, or has Theburb been drinking bleach?

[Dauphin]

It's a -stan.

[Provost Harrison]

So Eminem did a song about him?