I officially give up: American political discourse is hopeless

[Kidlicious]

Potential copycat thread - I officially give up. America is hopeless.

[Straybow]

[Q=Guynemer;5837951]Between the Journolist debacle, the rise of noted sack of lying, racebaiting **** Andrew Brietbart (or however the **** you spell it), and the continued inverterate ****ting-themselves-****less of the allegedly "liberal" Democratic Party, I have officially given up any hope for the future of American political discourse. We, as a people, are a bunch of marginally-retarded, highly-factionalized, giant pussies.

If any of my fellow Polytubbies can convince me otherwise, please, do your best. I ain't holding my breath.[/Q] Breitbart released the video primarily to illustrate the reaction of the NAACP audience, who murmured their approval that aid was withheld from the white applicant. As for Sherrod, her "it's about the haves and have-nots" in which she generously allows that whites can be have-nots, and her some-of-my-friends-are-white defense, are both lame. She still doesn't get it, and is still as racist as her audience.

[giblets]

As for Sherrod, her "it's about the haves and have-nots" in which she generously allows that whites can be have-nots, and her some-of-my-friends-are-white defense, are both lame. She still doesn't get it, and is still as racist as her audience.

In what sense is "it's about the haves and have-nots" racist?

[Guynemer]

[Q=Guynemer;5837951]Between the Journolist debacle, the rise of noted sack of lying, racebaiting **** Andrew Brietbart (or however the **** you spell it), and the continued inverterate ****ting-themselves-****less of the allegedly "liberal" Democratic Party, I have officially given up any hope for the future of American political discourse. We, as a people, are a bunch of marginally-retarded, highly-factionalized, giant pussies.

If any of my fellow Polytubbies can convince me otherwise, please, do your best. I ain't holding my breath.[/Q] Breitbart released the video primarily to illustrate the reaction of the NAACP audience, who murmured their approval that aid was withheld from the white applicant. As for Sherrod, her "it's about the haves and have-nots" in which she generously allows that whites can be have-nots, and her some-of-my-friends-are-white defense, are both lame. She still doesn't get it, and is still as racist as her audience.

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You can't be serious. About any of that.

[MrFun]

[Q=Guynemer;5837951]Between the Journolist debacle, the rise of noted sack of lying, racebaiting **** Andrew Brietbart (or however the **** you spell it), and the continued inverterate ****ting-themselves-****less of the allegedly "liberal" Democratic Party, I have officially given up any hope for the future of American political discourse. We, as a people, are a bunch of marginally-retarded, highly-factionalized, giant pussies.

If any of my fellow Polytubbies can convince me otherwise, please, do your best. I ain't holding my breath.[/Q] Breitbart released the video primarily to illustrate the reaction of the NAACP audience, who murmured their approval that aid was withheld from the white applicant. As for Sherrod, her "it's about the haves and have-nots" in which she generously allows that whites can be have-nots, and her some-of-my-friends-are-white defense, are both lame. She still doesn't get it, and is still as racist as her audience.

This is one of the best joke posts in this thread.


. . . . cause you're not being serious, right?

[MrFun]

On another note, I have to say, compared to the other news networks on television, CNN certainly did a much better job in getting the facts.

The other thought I have is that after seeing what Sherrod had suffered through, and then the explosion over this issue among others in the media and our society, America continues to pay the price for unresolved race issues.

[Dinner]

[Q=Guynemer;5837951]Between the Journolist debacle, the rise of noted sack of lying, racebaiting **** Andrew Brietbart (or however the **** you spell it), and the continued inverterate ****ting-themselves-****less of the allegedly "liberal" Democratic Party, I have officially given up any hope for the future of American political discourse. We, as a people, are a bunch of marginally-retarded, highly-factionalized, giant pussies.

If any of my fellow Polytubbies can convince me otherwise, please, do your best. I ain't holding my breath.[/Q] Breitbart released the video primarily to illustrate the reaction of the NAACP audience, who murmured their approval that aid was withheld from the white applicant.

Er, except no aid was ever withheld and the audience was told in advance that this was a story about how she came to understand she needed to help all poor people without reguard for race and that she needed to get over her past feelings (she was distrustful of whites after he father was lynched and murdered by the KKK in her family's frontyard when she was a child). Also the story in question took place in 1986 which was 23 years before she started working for the government.

I seriously have to ask if you've been living under a rock if you haven't figured this out yet? Did you miss Fox News scrambling and trying to pretend their previous line (which you parroted completely) never happened?

[DinoDoc]

Er, except no aid was ever withheld...

According to her statements, she did not do as much as she could have on his behalf. She directed him to a white lawyer, reasoning, "that his own kind would take care of him." Granted she later had an epiphany about how racist that was but she admits not doing all she could have on his behalf.

Did you miss Fox News scrambling and trying to pretend their previous line (which you parroted completely) never happened?

But for all the chatter -- some of it from Sherrod herself -- that she was done in by Fox News, the network didn't touch the story until her forced resignation was made public Monday evening, with the exception of brief comments by O'Reilly. After a news meeting Monday afternoon, an e-mail directive was sent to the news staff in which Fox Senior Vice President Michael Clemente said: "Let's take our time and get the facts straight on this story. Can we get confirmation and comments from Sherrod before going on-air. Let's make sure we do this right."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/21/AR2010072106708.html

[Hauldren Collider]

Yeah, QFT DinoDoc.

[Boris Godunov]

According to her statements, she did not do as much as she could have on his behalf. She directed him to a white lawyer, reasoning, "that his own kind would take care of him." Granted she later had an epiphany about how racist that was but she admits not doing all she could have on his behalf.

Hi!

No, she said that she *initially* didn't do everything she could have for the farmer, but later *did* get involved to her full ability after she realized the lawyer she directed him to wasn't helping him. She did everything she could at that point and did indeed save their farm, as the farmer fully acknowledges. Still, I don't see how her initial actions constituted "withholding aid," as she said she believed the white lawyer would be able to help the farmer as much as anyone.

Breitbart released the video primarily to illustrate the reaction of the NAACP audience, who murmured their approval that aid was withheld from the white applicant.

That's some of the most absurd revisionism I've seen, Straybow. Come on... Breitbart ran headlines in which he called Sherrod "racist," and exulted in her being fired. At any rate, if that was the point of the video, the fact that it's heavily edited and doesn't show the audience's positive response to Sherrod's epiphany about race and her ultimately helping the white farmers is just as dishonest, isn't it?

[MrFun]

Er, except no aid was ever withheld and the audience was told in advance that this was a story about how she came to understand she needed to help all poor people without reguard for race and that she needed to get over her past feelings (she was distrustful of whites after he father was lynched and murdered by the KKK in her family's frontyard when she was a child). Also the story in question took place in 1986 which was 23 years before she started working for the government.

I seriously have to ask if you've been living under a rock if you haven't figured this out yet? Did you miss Fox News scrambling and trying to pretend their previous line (which you parroted completely) never happened?

Exactly. Breitbart made the video to be about the opposite of what it really was about.

I saw on CNN yesterday or couple days ago that showed how Sherrod and the white farming couple of this whole story had become friends.

[Al B. Sure!]

Speaking of Glen Beck... any thoughts on his Black Founders' episode?



Here's the links to more... I realize no one is going to sit through 40 minutes of Glen Beck though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlureu8RRb4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xce-uaKkjBk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT4pzkC4dqg

[Imran Siddiqui]

[Q=Guynemer;5837951]Between the Journolist debacle, the rise of noted sack of lying, racebaiting **** Andrew Brietbart (or however the **** you spell it), and the continued inverterate ****ting-themselves-****less of the allegedly "liberal" Democratic Party, I have officially given up any hope for the future of American political discourse. We, as a people, are a bunch of marginally-retarded, highly-factionalized, giant pussies.

If any of my fellow Polytubbies can convince me otherwise, please, do your best. I ain't holding my breath.[/Q] Breitbart released the video primarily to illustrate the reaction of the NAACP audience, who murmured their approval that aid was withheld from the white applicant. As for Sherrod, her "it's about the haves and have-nots" in which she generously allows that whites can be have-nots, and her some-of-my-friends-are-white defense, are both lame. She still doesn't get it, and is still as racist as her audience.

In a forum with Ben, Kidicious, etc, this may end up being the most distant from reality thing ever posted here. That is quite an achievement.

[Fve Crathva]

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[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Exactly. Breitbart made the video to be about the opposite of what it really was about.

I saw on CNN yesterday or couple days ago that showed how Sherrod and the white farming couple of this whole story had become friends.

If you have proof of this allegation you need to get it to Sherrod post haste in order to aid in her ability to press charges against Breitbart. Breitbart claims, and has so from the beginning, that he was provided only the editted clip. He claims he ran with it rather than verify context. Eivdence of neglect (akin to what all the other networks, white house and NAACP did) rather than malice. Seems rather an indictment of baseless racist accusation and how harmful it may be.