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    Julia Gillard our PM is travelling to Canberra this morning and from news reports is certain to visist the GG and request an election probably for August 28th.
    After an initial bounce in the polls when she became our first female PM, the popularity of the Labor party has dropped significantly. Julia's negotiations on the mining tax that had her reach an agrerement with 3 major companies out of more than 300 mining companies has not neutralized the issue as much as expected and only a major change in Treasury forecasts relating to iron ore and coal pricing avoided a major revenue collapse from the deal. Her new policy on asylum seekers arriving by boat from Indonesian waters has been a total disaster after she proposed a regional processing centre in E. Timor. Problem was she had verbal approval from the figurehead president of E. Timor, but its parliament has since said no, she spoke to the wrong people before announcing the policy in a rush.
    The last days or so some of the bitterness and broken deals of the leadership coup that brought her to power has become public also, so the Labor party seems to be announcing policies that fail almost immediately and is divided. Although the opinion polls still show a minor lead to Labor party, this is likely to dissipate quickly and my prediction is that the opposition Liberal Party will win this election.
    Tony Abbot the opposition leader is a staunch catholic who studied for the priesthood, but chose not to enter it. He however retains very forthright catholic views on moral issues. BK would approve of him I am sure. Normally Tony is the sort of person Australians would not normally elect as a PM, but Labor party has stuffed governing up in almost every state as well as federally in recent years, so is very much on the nose, particularly in our biggest states of NSW and Qld where the state Labor governments are very unpopular.
    Tony Abbot was the 3rd opposition leader in 2 years when he took the job on, after the opposition party split right down the middle on climate change policy. At the time He won the leadership only because the party was upset that the previous leader had defied the party room on an Emissions Trading Scheme policy and tried to impose policies on the party that the members objected to by a clear majority. Tony stood with the climate change skeptics and took the leadership by 1 vote. He has surprised almost everyone by at least publicly unifying the Liberal party and mending the fences successfully with its traditional coalition partner the National party.
    He has successfully opposed Governments policies and also made glaringly obvious the many failings of the government. As He done that and began to look a winner the party unified.
    So on the surface it is an election between an incompetent Labor party with divisions and a unified Liberal/National Party opposition with many previous years of competent government and with a tough, socially rightwing, climate skeptic leader. Economically He may be less conservative than the previous leaders of the Liberal party, in many ways Tony's economic views are not well known, his social views and pro-monarchial views have always taken frontstage.

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    Pro-monarchial? Are there really people left in western countries that are pro-monarchial? Why are all the non-American democracies so darn backwards?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by OzzyKP View Post
      Pro-monarchial? Are there really people left in western countries that are pro-monarchial?

      Yes.

      Why are all the non-American democracies so darn backwards?

      On the bright side, we have one less elected fool causing trouble.
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      • #4
        what's backward about it?
        "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

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        • #5
          It doesn't meet Ozzy's standards of how everyone should want to be like the Yanks.
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          • #6
            He probably envisions royalty running around ordering heads to be chopped off.
            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
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            • #7
              Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
              On the bright side, we have one less elected fool causing trouble.
              i seem to remember one of the slogans in the last austrailian referendum on the monarchy was "if you don't trust politicians, vote no [to replacing the queen]".
              "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

              "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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              • #8
                Monarchy
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                • #9
                  I agree with Ozzy.
                  If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                  • #10
                    Two compelling arguments.
                    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                    • #11
                      If you had a monarch that actually exercised his/her authority, you would quickly decide that it wasn't worth it. Theory is nice, practice is better...there's a reason we don't have one and for all practical purposes you don't either.
                      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                      • #12
                        Ah. See post #6.
                        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                          If you had a monarch that actually exercised his/her authority, you would quickly decide that it wasn't worth it. Theory is nice, practice is better...there's a reason we don't have one and for all practical purposes you don't either.

                          We don't need elected dickwads with ideas of grandeur to serve as heads of states either.

                          Your system is fine for Yanks. More power to you. However it is a typical American conceit to think that everyone else must be just like you or there is a problem.
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                          • #14
                            Only Communists, Americans and the French are against monarchy.

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                            • #15
                              BTW, the Quieen last used her powers in the UK in 1999. In Canada it was 2009 when the GG used hers.

                              Nobody in Canada is seriously upset with the GG or the monarchy over it. The PM and his party is another matter. I suspect the situation is the same in the UK.
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