Anyone here read anything from Julius Evola?

[Heraclitus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Evola

His work is tought provoking if however deeply flawed.

[DaShi]

Have you ever considered Scientology? I suggest that you read up on some actually sources and try to establish an opinion on it. It should at least be good for a laugh. . .from us.

[Al B. Sure!]

You would like the fascist and racist, Heraclitus, wouldn't you? I bet you only came across Julius Evola because he was referenced heavily on that racist European Supremacy blog that you referenced and I pointed it out.

[Al B. Sure!]

Thought provoking? You really think so?

Evola believed that a race of "Nordic" people, anciently emanating from Golden Age Arctic Hyperborea, originally semi-immaterial and "soft-boned", had played a crucial founding role in Atlantis and the high cultures both of the East and West

On the "demonic" nature of the lower negroid races and their degenerating remnants, Evola relies on an old Aryo-Zoroastrian tradition that teaches negroids belonged to the dark side owing to their alleged origin in the union between a demon and a wicked witch: "Zohak, during his reign, let loose a dev (demon) on a young woman, and let loose a young man on a parik (witch). They performed coition with [the sight] of the apparition; the negro came into being through that [novel] kind of coition"

[Al B. Sure!]

And as if an origin myth for the negro being the product of coition between Zohak's demon and a witch isn't racist enough...

"And if Fascist Italy, among the various Western nations is the one which first wished for a reaction against the degeneration of the materialist, democratic and capitalist civilisation, against the League of Nations ideology, there are grounds for thinking, without even any scintilla of chauvinistic infatuation, that Italy will be on the front line among the forces which will guide the future world and will restore the supremacy of the white race"

[Heraclitus]

Not the racial aspect, the antimodernist tought and his involvment with Dadaist art is what is interesting to me. Also he was not a materialist racist (he didn't belive in anything like a biological concept of race), to him race was something spritual.

The whole bathsit insane Atlantis Hyperborea stuff is often found in estoeric traditions of the times I mostly ignored.


Anyway didn't anyone note I described his ideas as "deeply flawed"? Also I deeply resent you describing me a white supremacist. You seem to have read plenty of my posts so far and should by now see how completley incompatible their notions are with mine. White supremacist. Bah! I am no such thing, there are many different kinds of man and you can find a kind of man that is superior to those usually described as "White" in nearly any individual aspect, be it athletics, longevity, inteligence or even beauty. Even the overall packaging of traits, the balancing of pros and cons while not bad in the modern world per se is not really that impressive, both African and East Asians seem better adapted to the modern world though their respective environments or should I say neiches differ. Whites are just a slightly smarter than average Caucasoid that dosen't have a good ecological neiche to fit into (since the advent of modern industralized warfare, before that the combination of a IQ of 100, easily molded tribal instincts and reasonable muscle mass was a good build for a soldier), that's why we will be replaced, that's why we fail to reproduce, the cause not some giant (usually Jewsih, though sometimes lizard people are also blamed) conspiracy or malady of mind that the Nationalists belive to be the cause.

My goal is to replace us (and by us I mean the majority of mankind not just Whites) with a people smarter than any previous group of humans, hence my support of eugenics.

[Al B. Sure!]

Hyperborea? Isn't that like Conan the barbarian stuff?

[Al B. Sure!]

since the advent of modern industralized warfare, before that the combination of a IQ of 100 and reasonable muscle mass was a good build for a soldier

Are you saying this is not true now?

[Heraclitus]

Hyperborea? Isn't that like Conan the barbarian stuff?

Yeah it is. There where lots of post-romantic and other people who took the Hyperborean myth seriusly or at least chose to belived because it was absurd but also epic. The smarter ones tought it enriched their spritual lives or whatever, the dumber ones are the kind of people who go for bioenergy or conspiracy theories today.

[Heraclitus]

Are you saying this is not true now?

A good muscle build is usefull. And yes the US army basically figured out that soldiers with IQs below 100 are hard to train and those below 90 are a challenge and aren't usually worth it.

But.

The scale of warfare when we engage in it (WW1,WW2) kill off the type in vast quantities, the soldiers once they return from war also aren't rewarded by additional reproductive fitness beyond what the guy with the bad leg and reasonable job had at home.

During "peace time" the policing actions (ala Iraq) don't cost many lives (causalty rates are low due to improvments in medicine), but they also don't demand many troops, meaning practically any human population that has a few douzen million people has enough people of that build to man a occupation force of a few hundred thousand men if it really needs it. And in any case such actions are used to maintain empires (commerical or otherwise) that don't add them any reproductive fitness the way they added it to the bronze spear wielding chariot riding conquerer tribes of IndoEuropeans in 2000 BC.

Also note the entry of robots in warfare, by 2060 there won't be any serious manned fighers or bombers. For the first few decades they will be piloted remotley by good reflex 100+ IQ people and later AIs will take the burden off them. Aircraft directly controled by people will seem as antiquated as a cavlary division during the Korean war no later than 2100.

I need to note that even the conquests of the 15-19th century where only "good" for "Whites" when they enjoyed the advantage of disease resistance (Aboriginals, Native Americans) or civilization adaptations to the crops and foods (Alcoholism and diabetes took their toll), they didn't gain squat when competing with Africans for example precisley because in that environment the Blacks where the ones with the better health, if you recall nearly all of the early explorers died of some tropical disease.

And White disease resistance and civilizational adaptations in the 15-19th century are nothing special among Caucasoids or even all old world people in general (Africans have fewever civilization adaptations, however most of them do have agricultural adaptations and those are the ones that really count). The only reason whites got some breathing room was because of a historical accident that they where the first Old worlders to reach these groups.

And now that other groups have acces to the Whites habitat, clearly better adapted ones, or novel postwhites (since usefull genes tend to escape the population of origin during long cohabiations of populations) types derived from the old population will replace them. I don't expect there being more than lets say 5 million "Whites" of the type we would recognize as such around 2200. People that we would today classifly as of the West African type will number in the billions, and "classical" North East Asians will probably be holding on in numbers of at least a few hundred million. Note this is assuming Gentile Whites, Asians, Indians or Askenazi Jews don't go for biological warfare to wipe out a competitor or two.

The other Caucasoids type's destinies are also uncertain (except lower Indian casts they are safe) on a longer (lets say 500 years) time scale.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

My goal is to replace us (and by us I mean the majority of mankind not just Whites) with a people smarter than any previous group of humans, hence my support of eugenics.

Have you had the vasectomy yet?

[Heraclitus]

Have you had the vasectomy yet?

After you.

[Al B. Sure!]

Heraclitus:

So you're saying that the solution to maintaining a broad range of physically fit individuals in the nation would be to militarize the society. Militarize das Volk?

Also note the entry of robots in warfare, by 2060 there won't be any serious manned fighers or bombers. For the first few decades they will be piloted remotley by good reflex 100+ IQ people and later AIs will take the burden off them. Aircraft directly controled by people will seem as antiquated as a cavlary division during the Korean war no later than 2100.

Okay. Have you learned anything from Vietnam or the recent Iraq and Afghanistan wars?

[Asher]

After you.

He already has.

[Heraclitus]

He already has.

But If I recall right he has children. That's cheating he needs to encourage them to get snipped too.