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  • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    Uhh, homeless people are a separate issue entirely.

    They are not all homeless. They all are not stable, intelligent, and free of issues related to mental illness.

    They are desperately poor.

    We shouldn't design the tax system around them.

    They should be taken into account. Taxes on people who live on the curb aren't appealing to me.
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    • Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
      Two propositions for BFB to consider:

      1) The bottom decile of British citizens by income is in something like the top quartile of all humans by material consumption, right?

      2) The idea that the level of material consumption you are entitled to is based on where you were born is nearly as pernicious as the idea that it's based on who your parents were.


      Readers- take note of Little Lord Fauntleroy Snr. This is how trainee actuaries explain the message "Let them eat cake."

      You need to experience some poverty too, you spoonfed scion.
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      • Readers note the witness did not answer the question.

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        • Or challenge either premise.

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          • But yes, I would vastly prefer the situation in which drastic cuts came to services provided to any segment of British (or American) society and those same monies used to fund foreign aid, in a vacuum.

            You should really go experience some third-world poverty, racist
            Last edited by Kuciwalker; June 23, 2010, 01:11.

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            • The bigger ridiculous expense is your marauding, warmongering military.
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              • I agree, of course.

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                • God, I've taught you well...
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                  • Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
                    Readers note the witness did not answer the question.

                    OK Kuci. So the poorest in the developed world consume more than the 3rd world peasantry?

                    Then they must stop buying packaged goods. And instead herd goats and grow crops. On the land they don't have. And instead of having running water, they should nobly excrete their bodily wastes in the streets. They won't get arrested!

                    Moron.
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                    • This is the basic drawback of trying to explain the realities of social deprivation to one who can't imagine the concept of worrying how to pay the gas bill, or running for a bus.
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                      • Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
                        OK Kuci. So the poorest in the developed world consume more than the 3rd world peasantry?

                        Then they must stop buying packaged goods. And instead herd goats and grow crops. On the land they don't have. And instead of having running water, they should nobly excrete their bodily wastes in the streets. They won't get arrested!

                        Moron.
                        No, his point is that you worrying about a small drop in the welfare of some relatively well off people when there are other, far less fortunate people in the world WHO JUST DON'T HAPPEN TO BE BRITISH is basically extremely parochial
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                        • That makes sense. Kuci is know for his adoption of many children from deprived areas of Malawi to address these global injustices. He's like Madonna, but with a smaller ****.
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                          • Also, I guarantee you that the vast majority of people in that lowest income decile don't sit in that decile for most of their lives...

                            Individual income mobility is generally a lot higher than that.

                            For example, many of the lowest decile are likely to be students. Others are temporarily unemployed, and have savings or family to support them.

                            Only a very small number will persistently have such low income.
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
                              That makes sense. Kuci is know for his adoption of many children from deprived areas of Malawi to address these global injustices. He's like Madonna, but with a smaller ****.
                              So you admit that you should be agitating for more foreign aid rather than to stop a bunch of temporarily unemployed/student Britons from losing a small fraction of their standard of living?
                              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                              Stadtluft Macht Frei
                              Killing it is the new killing it
                              Ultima Ratio Regum

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                              • Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
                                That makes sense. Kuci is know for his adoption of many children from deprived areas of Malawi to address these global injustices. He's like Madonna, but with a smaller ****.
                                So I want to help the poor, and therefore must want to devote my personal resources to doing it. You, on the other hand, want to help the rich, but you want to do so via government transfer payments.

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