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  • Australia: The Nanny State, Part XXVI

    Lawmakers in the Australian state of Queensland are proving just how upside down that country really is. Recently introduced legislation would allow


    Australian State Bans Swearing

    Jesse Kline | June 17, 2010

    Lawmakers in the Australian state of Queensland are proving just how upside down that country really is. Recently introduced legislation would allow police officers to issue on-the-spot fines of $100 AUD ($86.50) for swearing in public:

    Premier Anna Bligh announced the new powers for police to issue on-the-spot notices for public nuisance offences on Tuesday.

    Ms Bligh said the move would increase efficiency, save time and fast-track more important matters in the courts by stopping minor public nuisance offenders from clogging the justice system.

    She said the measures, targeting offences such as public urination, disorderly conduct and abusive language, would save the Government between $18 million and $30 million.

    The power to issue on-the-spot fines of between $100 and $300 could result in public nuisance prosecutions soaring 20 per cent, based on figures from a 12-month trial in South Brisbane and Townsville.

    In 2008-2009 terms, that could see 5500 more people slapped with the offence across Queensland each year.

    Ms Bligh said it was hard to estimate if the 20 per cent increase would hold true right across the state.


    With the ability to arbitrarily violate a fundamental human right, increase revenues, and bypass the court system, this is sure to be a real win for police. I'd just hate to be the ****ing guy who starts spouting off at a cop before he's had his coffee and donuts. At least some people in Australia see the folly of this type of legislation:

    F---. BANG 100 bucks.

    S*!# POW Another Hundgee..

    Ok, it may have to be a bit more offensive than that. But are we really going to give every policeman in the force the power to take our money if they deem our language a tad naughty?

    There will be regulations on what's naughty and what's not but until now we were put in front of a judge - an esteemed, educated enforcer of the rule of law - to decide whether we were being a nuisance or not.

    By 2011 it will be Joe Blow everyday Mr Policeman who will be judge, jury and executioner.

    Capn' Bligh told our reporter the new laws would increase efficiency, save time and fast-track more important matters in the courts.

    A former court reporter for the Courier-Mail agreed, telling me in the newsroom yesterday people will prefer to pay a fine from home instead of fronting up to court for an embarrassing and relatively minor offence.

    I don't know.

    If I was drunk and disorderly, I reckon an on-the-spot fine would be unlikely to make me pull my head in there and then.

    Pros and cons aside, you have to question a law which gives cops the ability to give on-the-spot fines for non-defamatory words uttered in public.

    What ever happened to freedom of speech?


    Good question, mate.
    ****
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

    When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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      I'm undecided on this issue for now as I haven't really thought about it.

      What annoys me though is that they're freezing the processing of Afghan and Tamil refugees, due to asylum seekers, many from Afhanistan and Sri Lankam arriving in Australia without visas. It would make some sense to freeze the claims of those aslyum seekers or place them at the end of the processing queue, or even kick them back a year or what have you to make it clear how much we don't want to spend time or money taking refugees off flimsy boats after they enter Australian territory. But it makes no sense to put Afghans and Tamils at a disadvantage to other refugee applicants. The government's response seems to be a sort of "we can't look bad about refugees among the public so boom look we're freezing processing claims" line of thought, which is pretty silly.
      "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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        Huh?

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          How can you not ****ing know how to ****ing feel about this ****ing piece of ****ing crap legislation?
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            All I have to say Asher is...

            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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              Originally posted by Prince Asher View Post
              How can you not ****ing know how to ****ing feel about this ****ing piece of ****ing crap legislation?
              Well people get parking fines. Is it so unfair to get a fine for disorderly conduct if it's already an offence in any case? (1) it's not that big a fine; (2) the offence really isn't that serious either.
              "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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              • #8
                **** that ****. And **** you, too, Officer ****y Mc****balls.
                Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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                • #9
                  I support this legislation.

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