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Canadian who made Heraclitus style comment called me son of a *****
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I'm still partial to anal fisting.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Believe it or not, I didn't actually edit this post.Originally posted by Oerdin View PostI'm still partial to anal fisting.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
We've got both kinds
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Punch him in the face and keep screaming "What did you say?!! What did you say?!!!" until he rescinds. That way he can save face.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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Originally posted by BeBro View PostI wonder if the ancient Romans blamed modernity for decadence too.Well they kind of had a point since both civs became decadent and stagnated.Originally posted by MikeH View PostThey did, and they certainly complained about "the youth of today" as did the Greeks.
Esp. Rome is a bad example to this argument since they where overrun by:
a) A puritanical Middle Eastern Cult whose followers breed like forest bunnies and then opressed native beliefs once they gained the majority
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b) Barbarian contractors who where used to fill vacant positions in the state (esp military needs).Last edited by Heraclitus; October 23, 2010, 17:55.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
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And did the polis Aristotle's ideal last much after his death? Or was he right in his rants and Greeks became passive subjects with fewer rights in vast empires like most other peoples?Originally posted by Robert Plomp View PostThere are some nice quotes from Aristotles about that
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
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You seriusly think the world would be better off without humans? WTF? Tree hugging freak.Originally posted by Oerdin View PostI'm extremely consistent and believe the world would be improved if everyone's relatives died. Especially you.Last edited by Heraclitus; October 23, 2010, 17:56.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
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I don't think Greece's decline had much to do with decadence, esp. not if we talk about the classical polis world. Their decline was mainly due to never-ending inter-polis conflict culminating in the Peloponnesian War.Originally posted by Heraclitus View PostWell they kind of had a point since bothc civs became decadent and stagnated.
Esp. Rome is a bad example to this argument since they where overrun by:
a) A puritanically Middle Eastern Cult whose followers breed like forest bunnies and then opressed native beliefs once they gained the majority
and
b) Barbarian contractors who where used to fill vacant positions in the state (esp military needs).
Depending what we regard as 'decadent' we could say major Greek polis like Athens or Thebes had a good deal of 'decadence' long before their decline. Sparta stagnated because of silly elitism leading to a situation where military losses could have devastating consequences because there simply weren't enough Spartiates to replace these losses, and they were unwilling and/or unable to open up their society to get more full citizens.
Later Hellenistic states simply couldn't compete in the long run with Rome as the new emerging ancient 'superpower'.
As for Rome, "decadence" is a common, but in the end only one possible explanation amongst many others for Rome's decline.Blah
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Originally posted by MikeH View PostYears of experience on Poly should show that people get the most angry when you clearly point out how stupid whatever they are saying is.
Any canucks amongst those ?
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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Yeah lucky us!Originally posted by VJ View PostWell I'm certainly glad that's not happening in Europe!Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
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