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  • #16
    Originally posted by Albert Speer View Post
    Did you know that if you watch Crocodile Dundee, he doesn't say "You call that a knife?" at all. That version appears to be from the Simpsons Australia episode.
    IIRC, the movie quote is "That's not a knife. This is a knife." It's many years since I saw it, so IMNRC.
    Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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    • #17
      No...



      It's "That's not a knife... that's a knife"

      Funny how the wording can get changed so much in popular culture.
      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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      • #18
        Meh. I was close enough for not having seen it in 20 years.
        Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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        • #19
          Play it again Sam

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          • #20
            Nazis
            Monkey!!!

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            • #21
              Compulsory computer protection mooted

              BY DAVID MCLENNAN
              23 Jun, 2010 12:00 AM

              Australians could be forced to install anti-virus protection on their computers and have their access to the internet shut down if they did not remove software infections, under a proposed crackdown on cyber crime.
              The Hackers, Fraudsters and Botnets: tackling the problem of cyber crime report, written by a bipartisan parliamentary committee, calls for a new Office of Online Security headed by a Cyber Security Coordinator and a national online cyber crime reporting facility, which would operate 24 hours a day offering help, referrals and free access to scanning software.

              The report said cyber crime had grown over the past decade from the ''nuisance of the cyber smart hacker into an organised transnational crime committed for vast profit and often with devastating consequences for its victims''.

              Committee chairwoman Labor MP Belinda Neal said the Australian Communications and Media Authority detected thousands of compromised computers every day, ''with many people often unaware that their personal financial information is at risk of theft by criminals operating online''.

              They could be unknowingly ''distributing child pornography or actually interfering with other people's privacy, stealing their identities in internet fraud''.

              The report said Australia needed to apply the ''same energy and commitment given to national security'' to the cyber crime threats that impacted on society more generally.

              The committee called for a new voluntary code of practice for internet service providers to be made mandatory.

              ''The private sector must also play its part. The internet industry has to accept that commercial gains also carry social responsibilities,'' it said.

              It said internet service providers should have to provide basic security advice when accounts were set up, and not allow new users to log on to the internet until they had installed anti-virus software and firewalls.

              Providers would also have to tell users when their computer might be infected and offer a ''clear policy on graduated access restrictions and, if necessary, disconnection until the infected machine is remediated''.

              Ms Neal said there were risks not just to the individual computer user, but also to the community at large.

              ''We felt it was important to make it mandatory that they should be advised. ... The problem is consumers may not be aware at all that their computer is compromised, so they are essentially carrying a loaded weapon and they don't know that that is the case and the committee was very much of the view that it was important that they were advised and they took steps to remedy the situation,'' she said.

              Internet Industry Association chief executive Peter Coroneos welcomed the report, and the focus on his organisation's new code of practice, but he said it had been brought in only two weeks ago, and called for more time to evaluate its success.

              ''It is premature and probably unnecessary [to make it mandatory], and we would at least like the opportunity to demonstrate the high degree of compliance that we expect to achieve before going down that path,'' he said.

              He questioned forcing users to have anti-virus protection, saying although the association recommended people have up-to-date software, making it a requirement would raise questions about the appropriate level of protection.

              The committee also called for community education to make people more e-security aware and active.

              It said domain name registrars and resellers should be forced to apply a ''know your customer'' principle to reduce the fraudulent use of domain names.
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              • #22
                I say this with the authority of someone who's done network security for three years now:

                That's a ****ing stupid idea for so many reasons.
                If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                • #23
                  The internet filter coming to the US -- with barely any dissent
                  Harley Dennett in Washington DC writes:

                  The US Congress spent yesterday packing up and heading home for mid-term re-election campaigns, having failed its most important job -- passing the annual budget. But even this deadlocked Congress is capable of doing what the Australian Labor Party cannot -- pass a mandatory ISP-based Internet filter -- and do so before the end of the year.

                  Speaker Nancy Pelosi will recall the current congress for a special lame-duck session later this year before newly elected representatives are sworn in, to pass last-minute reforms in case the Democrats lose power, as widely predicted in the polls. Among those reforms include a low-profile copyright proposal with bipartisan, almost unanimous support that just so happens to include censoring whole websites included on a government-run blacklist.

                  The Combating Online Infringements and Counterfeits Act (COICA) will blacklist sites that are "dedicated to infringing activities" regardless of where the site is hosted, with exceptions for commercially-oriented sites but not political speech. Originally planned as two blacklists, one controlled by the courts and one by the US Attorney General, the latter was dropped from the bill yesterday after ISPs raised early complaints.

                  Aaron Swartz from Progressive Change and Australian Peter Eckersley from Electronic Frontier Foundation began a petition campaign this week to fight the bill at demandprogress.org, garnering 100,000 signatures in two days.

                  "This bill is so broad it could even block completely legal sites like YouTube, just because enough other people use it for copyright infringement," Swartz told Crikey. "But even if it was narrower than that, do we really want to make the internet in America less useful than the internet in, say, Canada? Sites that are illegal should be shut down, not censored."

                  Eckersley was also concerned there was a power imbalance between the copyright owner bodies like the RIAA/MPAA and online storage sites like Rapidshare or Dropkey, "where you might store all your photos to send to grandma, and suddenly they’re gone" if the site gets slapped on the blacklist for a different user’s uploads.

                  A letter signed by 87 prominent internet engineers -- including those who invented the technology that would enable the censorship -- said the filter would undermine the credibility of the United States in its role as steward of key internet infrastructure: “In exchange for this, the bill will introduce censorship that will simultaneously be circumvented by deliberate infringers while hampering innocent parties' ability to communicate.”

                  Congressional Democratic Party support for the bill could also cause embarrassment for the Obama administration. In January, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said countries that filter internet pages breach the UN's Universal Declaration on Human Rights. That statement was thought to be in reference to Iran, Egypt and China, but also drew attention to Australia.

                  What separates the American proposal from the one pushed by Australian Communications Minister Senator Stephen Conroy is not just different intent -- entertainment piracy versus "inappropriate material" -- but political inevitability.

                  The bill was due to be raised today in the Senate Judiciary committee, where it has been co-sponsored by 14 of the 19 committee members, including a majority of both Democrats and Republicans, guaranteeing it will be recommended to the full Senate. Only strong opposition from the majority leader’s office could stall it now. That the bill’s author was the committee chairman, the liberal 70-year-old Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont, suggests the party leadership has no significant qualms.

                  A spokeswoman for Senator Leahy said she couldn’t say whether the bill would reach a vote in November as the length of the lame-duck session was not yet confirmed, but it was their goal. No public hearing was necessary, she said, as witnesses had addressed the issue at hearings earlier in the year.

                  Swartz and Eckersley understand the power of the entertainment industry’s lobbyists in Washington, but saw sunlight as their most effective counter: "I think most Senators signed on to this bill thinking it was just another standard copyright bill," Swartz said. "When the public outcry forces them to stop and take a look at the details, they'll rethink their support."

                  The timing of the bill introduction in the last few weeks of congress with public focus on the election, the pressure of a lame-duck session and the speed with which it was co-sponsored by a majority of committee suggests significantly planning and lobbying. The EFF was caught by surprise and has had to rush a public campaign in response.

                  The copyright content industry had been on the back foot after losing a major court case in Viacom versus YouTube in August. That case will be appealed to the Second Circuit and possibly the Supreme Court. If enacted this law would lower the burden for the content industry and allow courts to preemptively act against infringement.

                  "If this bill had been around five years ago, YouTube wouldn’t have existed," Eckersley warned.

                  The slow public awareness of the bill contrasts markedly with the American cultural identity which fears government censorship so much it prohibited it as the first amendment to the constitution and engraved it on 22-metre-high marble on Pennsylvania Avenue symbolically connecting the White House to Capitol Hill.

                  A survey of the child p-rnography blacklists in Demark and Sweden has also provided sobering background on blacklist overreach: only 1.7% of the sites on the list actually contained the material the blacklist was intended to block.
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                  • #24
                    Australians are conservative creatures, but politicians tend, I think, to somewhat overestimate the conservativeness of the electorate. Probably most people think these suggestions are nonsense, but you don't catch too much flak in the scheme of things to support them, and presumably (so politicians think) you catch either the old people vote, the left wing latte set vote, or fulfil your own idiotic notions of fairness by implementing these policies.
                    "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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                    • #25
                      Wow the Breast thing is truly bizzare. Good campaigning by the Boob Doctors I guess.
                      Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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