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    The Culture of Narcissism

    Any study that tries to quantify empathy needs to be taken with a grain of salt, but you can take this particular survey yourself — and if you do, you’ll probably find its empathy-measuring questions credible enough to be at least disquieted by these findings:

    Today’s college students are not as empathetic as college students of the 1980s and ’90s, a University of Michigan study shows.

    The study, presented in Boston at the annual meeting of the Association for Psychological Science, analyzes data on empathy among almost 14,000 college students over the last 30 years.

    “We found the biggest drop in empathy after the year 2000,” said Sara Konrath, a researcher at the U-M Institute for Social Research. “College kids today are about 40 percent lower in empathy than their counterparts of 20 or 30 years ago, as measured by standard tests of this personality trait.”

    The fact that the tipping point seems to coincide with the rise of the internet should send everyone rushing off to read Christine Rosen’s 2007 essay on social networking, “Virtual Friendship and the New Narcissism,” which could have been written with just these findings in mind. But it’s also interesting to consider this trend in light of the oft-heard claim that the millennial generation is more idealistic, more civic-minded, and more engaged with the world than its cynical Gen X predecessors.

    On the face of it, these seem like contradictory portraits — how can the same generation be more solipsistic and more interested in human betterment and ambitious social activism? But maybe they actually go hand in hand. There’s a kind of humanitarianism that’s more interested in an abstract “humanity” than in actual people, and a kind of idealism that’s hard to distinguish from moral vanity. Perhaps this is the spirit that’s at work among the empathy-deficient world-changers of Generation Y — visible, for instance, in the way that community service has become a self-interested resume-padding exercise for ambitious young climbers, or in the way that Barack Obama’s rhetoric (“we are the ones we’ve been waiting for,” etc.) managed to appeal to younger voters’ idealism and flatter their egos all at once.

    On the other hand, this could also be grounds for a defense of narcissism, at least up to a point. Maybe too much empathy is crippling, and a little solipsism is a necessary spur to action. If a little “look out world, here I come” self-centeredness is what it takes to get young people involved in charity work or political campaigning, the theory might go, then so much the better for self-centeredness!

    Certainly there’s some truth to the idea that high achievement, humanitarian or otherwise, often goes hand in hand with a certain arrogance and self-involvement, and that the kind of people who change the world in dramatic ways aren’t always the kind of people you’d want as next-door neighbors. (Orwell’s famous line about saints being judged guilty till proven innocent may have some relevance here.) But then again, most of the college students being surveyed in this study aren’t going to grow up to be Charles De Gaulle or Winston Churchill — or Barack Obama, for that matter. The solipsism of great men may be forgivable and even necessary in some cases. But I’m more skeptical of the idea that mass narcissism is the key to a better world.
    I, for one, am finding this to be true with a lot of the younger folk coming out of college and into my field of work. They care more about their personal success than anything else, including the "community" at large, IMO. I've even had plant managers comment on the arrogance and self-centeredness of the younger crowd, which is only further complicated by their ignorance.

    Still, who is to blame? Gen Xers grew up with parents, and not only just parents, but parents who punished and made sure we knew our place. They also had steady jobs, and it was likely that they would hold the same job with the same company for their entire career. Not anymore.

    The generation coming out today was more likely to be raised by 2 parents who worked full-time or 1 parent who worked all the time, and in some cases were raised by a relative. In addition to being ignored, when they were give attention it was always positive, the last thing a parent who worked all day would want to do is come home and punish their children. In addition, they say these parents routinely pushed around and screwed over by the employer that took all their precious "me time" from them. So not only were they ignored, but they were ignored by a job that didn't honor their parents the same way they may have had they been given the chance.

    Self-centered and narcissistic? Yes. But that's because they never got spanked or loved.
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    Funny how you began your critical remarks about narcissism with "I."
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Japher View Post
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      In addition to being ignored, when they were give attention it was always positive, the last thing a parent who worked all day would want to do is come home and punish their children.

      Are you kidding? It's a great way to vent all that work stress.
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      • #4
        isn't it the natural order of things for late teens/early twenties to be arrogant, self centred and narcissistic? they (and we when we were that age) have the attitude of knowing everything. only later in life did I realize that the more I learn, the more I learn how little I know.
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        • #5
          including the "community" at large, IMO

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          • #6
            I find it interesting that people are using the increased socialization via technological means makes all the old people think people are just more narcissistic. Just because they're on facebook and twitter doesn't make tham narcissistic, it's just replaced one-to-one communication via telephone with one-to-many.

            Chalk this up to another "old people don't know why the younguns are getting corrupted by the rock n' roll" themed thread.
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            • #7
              I'm also unsure why spanking makes people less narcissistic.
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              • #8
                They realize that there's a violent irrational force that overpowers them, meaning they're not at the center of the universe.
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                • #9
                  old people want to be young but they cant so they rage.

                  young people want to be old but they cant so they act tough.
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                  • #10
                    In a lot of ways, spanking may encourage narcissism. It makes you the centre of attention.

                    Banishing a child out of sight does the opposite.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Prince Asher View Post
                      I find it interesting that people are using the increased socialization via technological means makes all the old people think people are just more narcissistic. Just because they're on facebook and twitter doesn't make tham narcissistic, it's just replaced one-to-one communication via telephone with one-to-many.

                      Chalk this up to another "old people don't know why the younguns are getting corrupted by the rock n' roll" themed thread.
                      Well I think he's trying to find out the reasons for the huge drop in empathy of college kids according to the study. The only think that stood out was social networking.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                        Well I think he's trying to find out the reasons for the huge drop in empathy of college kids according to the study. The only think that stood out was social networking.
                        Social networking makes it easier to see how stupid the world and its inhabitants are.

                        People are becoming more cynical and jaded by reality at an earlier age now.

                        This is societal optimization.
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                        • #13
                          But that's the thing, they are seemingly more idealistic than the previous generation. So less cynical, but less emphathy as well... idealistic about abstractions, but not actual people.
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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                          • #14
                            Yeah... my generation is narcissistic and self-centered...

                            Tell that to all the 21 year olds fighting in Afghanistan.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                              But that's the thing, they are seemingly more idealistic than the previous generation. So less cynical, but less emphathy as well... idealistic about abstractions, but not actual people.
                              Sounds like they're just getting dumber then.
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