I Present to you Toronto: Just banned bottled water, now banning soda/pop

[Hauldren Collider]

You really are retarded, DaShi.

[giblets]

How is bottled water an "idiot tax"? Maybe some people like the taste.

[Hauldren Collider]

........

[giblets]

Have you ever had bottled water? It doesn't taste the same as tap water.

[DaShi]

You really are retarded, DaShi.

You are too cute.

[Asher]

Wait.

They're banning pop from the schools and arenas, etc., on the grounds of its sugar content, but they're keeping the juice?

Yes.

[Asher]

How is bottled water an "idiot tax"? Maybe some people like the taste.

Banning of bottled water was on environmental grounds, not public health/stupidity (the bottles don't decompose well).

I don't drink bottled water myself, I use a Brita filter at home and I plan to buy a reverse osmosis machine when I buy my own place.

[Felch]

Bottled water doesn't taste any different, but it does have a convenience factor. And if you buy it in bulk, you can get 24 half liter bottles for a couple bucks. It's not as cheap as the tap, but it's a far cry from the $10/gal. price quoted by AS.

Albert's quote mentions that the oil used to make PET could power a million cars for a year. Is this accurate? I mean, do they really crack crude do generate more PET and less gasoline?

[Asher]

Each barrel of oil yields ~19G of gasoline.

If their source of 17M barrels of oil for PET a year just for bottled water is accurate (which I doubt, I don't know where to verify this though), that means that's 323M gallons of gasoline.

That would mean your average vehicle in the US uses 323 gallons of gas a year (1,222 litres). Some quick googling suggests this is fairly accurate.

[Asher]

This is how they got 17 million barrels:

According to the plastics manufacturing industry, it takes around 3.4 megajoules of energy to make a typical one-liter plastic bottle, cap, and packaging. Making enough plastic to bottle 31.2 billion liters of water required more than 106 billion megajoules of energy. Because a barrel of oil contains around 6 thousand megajoules, the Pacific Institute estimates that the equivalent of more than 17 million barrels of oil were needed to produce these plastic bottles.

http://www.pacinst.org/topics/water_and_sustainability/bottled_water/bottled_water_and_energy.html

[Kitschum]

Can you still get beer at hockey arenas in Toronto?

[Asher]

I don't think you can at the city-owned ones.

You can at the professional ones. Those aren't the arenas talked about here.

[Kuciwalker]

Banning idiot taxes

A tax on bottled water would be excellent economically.

[Asher]

Meanwhile, Ontario has banned Dan Aykryod's Vodka because of the SHAPE OF ITS BOTTLE.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/food-and-wine/ontario-bans-dan-aykroyds-skull-shaped-vodka/article1573490/

This is in addition to Ontario not stocking Johnny Walker Green Label. It wouldn't be a big problem if THEY DID NOT HAVE A ****ING MONOPOLY ON LIQUOR DISTRIBUTION AND SALE in the province.

[Kuciwalker]

That's awesome.