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  • #16
    I hope they also forbid men from having sex or marrying A cup women because they could just be doing it to simulated child sex.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Ecofarm View Post
      Not if she has fully-developed hips and is otherwise obviously of age. But yes, I saw your point.
      Your distinction is too fine. Why have an age requirement at all? Plenty of people don't "look their age".


      The law is a clumsy but well-intentioned regulation at best and a worthless infringement on personal rights at worst. Probably, it is somewhere in between and there are other requirements besides A-cup for a piece of pornography to be indicted under the new law [I dunno].
      I agree we don't know the details but from what has been presented it is a POS.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ecofarm View Post
        Not if she has fully-developed hips and is otherwise obviously of age. But yes, I saw your point.


        The law is a clumsy but well-intentioned regulation at best and a worthless infringement on personal rights at worst. Probably, it is somewhere in between and there are other requirements besides A-cup for a piece of pornography to be indicted under the new law (I dunno).


        I'm just sayin, the point of the law was not to avoid encouraging pedos but to address a truly horrible industry.
        Everyone involved was of legal age, yes?

        It may be disgusting to you, but why is it illegal?

        Is teacher/student roleplaying illegal also?

        to Eco for supporting the nanny state.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by DaShi View Post
          I hope they also forbid men from having sex or marrying A cup women because they could just be doing it to simulated child sex.
          Or as the article mentioned, A-cup women producing simulated child porn if they photograph themselves.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
            First Amendment
            Fifth Amendment (no self-incrimination)
            US Customs searches are subject to neither.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Asher View Post
              Everyone involved was of legal age, yes?

              It may be disgusting to you, but why is it illegal?

              Is teacher/student roleplaying illegal also?

              to Eco for supporting the nanny state.


              I think child pornography should be illegal whether it is real, cartoon or simulated with adults.


              Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not an "ANYTHING GOES libertarian".
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              • #22
                Has Australia always been this ****ed up? The last few years have seen all sorts of weirdness from them. Were they always this strange and we just didn't know about it or is this a more recent thing?
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                • #23
                  Why don't we look into the details of the law before we bash Australia.


                  I think every country has stupid questions on their custom cards, right?


                  Regarding the OP article "what if you made a video while on vacation?!" Email it to yourself. Fact is, searches at borders are permitted and if you don't want something seen when you cross a border then don't bring it with you. Why address the symptom (stupid questions) when the cause is border search policies. Either change the border search policies, or go ahead and cry about the obvious ramifications therein in vain.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                    Has Australia always been this ****ed up? The last few years have seen all sorts of weirdness from them. Were they always this strange and we just didn't know about it or is this a more recent thing?
                    They are trying to control a recent surge in pandaphilia.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Ecofarm View Post
                      I think child pornography should be illegal whether it is real, cartoon or simulated with adults.
                      Child pornography is pornography involving children.

                      Adults are not children.
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                      • #26
                        Fine.

                        I meant to say child sexual abuse images should be illegal whatever the format.
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                        • #27
                          I thought child pornography was wrong because it victimizes children. They can't consent to being in a porno. "simulated" child porn has no victim.

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                          • #28
                            Legal definitions of child pornography generally include sexual images involving both prepubescent and post-pubescent teenage minors and computer-generated images that appear to involve them.[16] Most possessors of child pornography who are arrested are found to possess images of prepubescent children; possessors of pornographic images of post-pubescent minors are less likely to be prosecuted, even though those images also fall within the statutes.[16]

                            Child pornography is a multi-billion dollar industry and among the fastest growing criminal segments on the internet.[17][18][19][20][21][22][23] Producers of child pornography try to avoid prosecution by distributing their material across national borders, though this issue is increasingly being addressed with regular arrests of suspects from a number of countries occurring over the last few years.[16][17] NCMEC claims that around 20 % of all pornography contains children.[24]

                            Child pornography is viewed and collected by pedophiles for a variety of purposes, ranging from private sexual uses, trading with other pedophiles, preparing children for sexual abuse as part of the process known as "child grooming", or enticement leading to entrapment for sexual exploitation such as production of new child pornography or child prostitution.[25][26][27]




                            Looking at the second bolded part, it seems Australia is adding an additional charge of 'lying to customs' in its fight against child pornography trafficers. I think that is the point of the question... If we catch them we can hit them a little harder.

                            Not the best way to legislate, but it's hard to have sympathy for child pornographers.
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                            • #29
                              Ecofarm is a pedophile.

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                              • #30
                                I really don't get it.


                                Just because Drake claimed to like young boys and I was like "WTF" (after his friend Kuci said he has known for a long time)... now people think that slandering me is fine? You are just showing what a scumbag you are.
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