President is dead

[Ecofarm]

That there's a commie.

[giblets]

Leave it at this:

China does not play by the same rules yet. Ok? When we compare the economy of China and a western one, it is apples and oranges. We cannot really compare their economy to western ones until they start playing by the same rules economically, socially, ecologically and politically.


And until that day... the dream of lasting peace...

Okay then. Doesn't really prove China is a "paper tiger".

[Ecofarm]

Main Entry: paper tiger
Function: noun
Date: 1850
: one that is outwardly powerful or dangerous but inwardly weak or ineffectual

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/paper+tiger

[Ecofarm]

Hello? Do you see it now?

Additionally, as noted earlier:

They have a buttload of our debt and their market is almost entirely export. Do you have any idea what isolation would do to them? They're vulnerable both internally and externally, to a 3rd world degree. I don't care what percent they invent for their pseudo-dollar-based economy charts this year or next.

[giblets]

They have a buttload of our debt

They possess treasury securities... how exactly does that make them weak?

their market is almost entirely export.

Their exports have fallen due to the global recession, but their economy is still growing at like 8%. I think you're overestimating how dependent they are on exports.

Edit: some images to illustrate my point

Spoiler:

Do you have any idea what isolation would do to them? They're vulnerable both internally and externally, to a 3rd world degree.

Their economy needs imports, just like anyone else. Even the US is reliant on oil imports.

I don't care what percent they invent for their pseudo-dollar-based economy charts this year or next.

Well there's no point in arguing with a conspiracy theorist. Have a nice day.

[SlowwHand]

105f = 40.55c

120f = 48.88c

80f = 26.66c

http://www.wbuf.noaa.gov/tempfc.htm

ps. I think Sloww meant 32f (freezing) not 0f for texas in the winter. I don't think Texas freezes much, let alone gets to 0f.

0f = -17.77c

Don't think when you're not used to it. I know what I wrote and I meant what I wrote. I've lived here 55 years. I think I know what the spectrum of temperatures are here.

[Theben]

Is it wrong to ask, "How many Polish guys does it take to crash an airplane?"

Didn't we see a Monty Python skit about this?

j/k Good luck to the Poles, sorry for your loss.