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  • Can't live with them, or without them

    So true.

    When a man goes into a serious relationship, it's not serious. When a man says they love the other one, it's not yet serious. When a man is going to have a child, then it is serious. At that point (or before that) we are reduced into robots:

    We have to go into shops, carrying her bag(s). We have to be psychologists in order to avoid giving ANY answer to the questions "does this make me look fat", "this would look good on you?!?" and so forth. It's hot, and you bounce into every woman, since they happen to not follow the linear style of walking. They go from item to item, totally ad hoc. The system is chaos, and somehow they never actually move away, it is you who dodges a hoards of women. Then you have to avoid all the confrontation, the evil eyes they give to each other in shops. That's because they have such deep values about life, and how their bodies look, which is, of course, ultimately the fault of all men. Even though the fashion magazines are written mostly by women, and the people who JUDGE their appearance most harshly is other women. Few porn mags won't make a difference, they're all whores anyway, right?

    Shopping is also a place where you get to buy stuff. It doesn't matter if you are tired or not. It's not something based on quotas either. It's "fun time". it is equal to you playing video games, except they are boring male stuff and you should do it on your own time, which you don't have. Too little shopping causes depression, shopping causes depression as well because the clothes won't fit. Or the bill afterward. Fortunately you get to offer to "help" so their financial situation won't bankrupt. Thank Jebus you did not buy the new game so you can afford this new shirt she will never ever wear.

    Women want stuff. All the time. When you buy groceries, go out to eat, it is expected that you pay. If you share some costs, it is still expected that if it's not exactly 50/50, you pay the rest. Period. It does not go the other way, ever. On top of this, you get to buy these gifts, and somehow they still manage to have less money, even if they had a bigger salary. You would never ever want to put monthly balance sheet on the fridge. Women are the only people on earth who think they are actually "making money" by "saving" because there was a "sale" on a store that had these expensive shirts and they got it half price and it was a "steal". So not only did they save money, they also made money, which allows them to buy with the remaining portion. That can be just spent, wasted, because it's all bonus.

    A woman can be jealous (of all other women, and sometimes, your friends) but you cannot ever be jealous of her. This is because women equal everything with love, you are under constant evaluation. so you spent 30 minutes playing a game? 30 minutes you could have spent with your woman. You would rather play games. You don't love her. You are so distant. Sometimes they look at you like superman with laser eyes. You look back at them, only to realize you are under evaluation. Now it's too late to look somewhere else, it's a sign of you not wanting to connect. So you keep looking back. Suddenly your lips and cheek starts to tremble. ****! This is not humane. Control. Your. Every. Muscle. "Do you still love me?", "Do you think...", "So I've been thinking...", "So I can't just look at you anymore?" and so forth. It's all ****ed once the staring starts.

    Women worry about every single thing. In general all the things they worry are things you cannot control, or are abstract. You have no right to disagree about the validity of the things worried. They override things you are worried about, like perhaps the balance sheet of finances. You are supposed to make money, give it to her, not get any money from her salary, and then on top not spend any time doing the actual work of making the money, but instead you have to spend every single minute with them. Unless told otherwise. Like when their favourite TV shows are on, and in case you don't like soap opera/reality show/etc. it's a sign of you not understanding. Shows you like are "man shows". But you should still watch their shows with them, and not escape and do other things, because why don't you want to spend quality time?

    The simplest things can be complex. Going to a grocery store to buy one single item, lets say bread, turns into you carrying bags, her grabbing tens of different products, including spices we will never use, and stuffing our kitchen with all kinds of stuff that will be discovered next time we move to another apartment, and it all amounts to you paying for it all. You agreed to get bread because it was eaten and that's the only thing needed, you come back with tons of stuff, you bought it and somehow we are broke. WTF?

    All in all, women need money for the sole reason of existing. It is your job to provide it. you're not supposed to work OT to get it. You're supposed to like everything she suggest, and never ever like anything she does not.

    But then again, you can't live without them either.
    In da butt.
    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

  • #2
    When you say "women" it sounds like you're describing your woman.

    Stand up for yourself man Don't lay back, bare your stomach and take it all. Express your dissatisfaction - only a little bit at a time mind you, don't save it all up and unload it all at once. Do it as it comes up. You went to buy bread, and she wants half the store? You pay for the bread. She asks "Why aren't you paying for the rest of it?" Say "I don't want it - you do. You pay."

    For years I've watched men lay down and take it, and does it pay off for them? No, they get left. Stand up for yourself. Your woman will respect you for it in the long run, and if she doesn't, then **** her, she was the wrong one for you anyway.

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    • #3
      Sounds like somebody revealed their man-gina, and let the woman get the upper hand.

      Chicks are like linoleum - lay it down right the first time, then walk over it for life.

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      • #4
        You want to spend time enjoying your hobbies, and so does she. Her hobby is spending time with you. Youre like a new game for her. she wants to play with you all the time lol. give it some time and you will get some free time, probably.

        Originally posted by ricketyclik View Post
        You pay for the bread. She asks "Why aren't you paying for the rest of it?" Say "I don't want it - you do. You pay."
        She will get the hump when you want to eat her delicious food later. Im sure what she got is a lot better than your loaf of bread!
        Safer worlds through superior firepower

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        • #5
          Sounds like she's a bad one. Is she that bad? Maybe she's not. Just think of all the things she does for you and be thankfull.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
            Sounds like she's a bad one. Is she that bad? Maybe she's not. Just think of all the things she does for you and be thankfull.
            NO she is not a bad one That was definitely an overboard.... The things my SO has gone through with me because of my situation has been tremendous. She's been my biggest support, never leaving my side, showing loyalty to the end if that would have been the case.

            Not only that, but everything is good. The shopping stuff is pretty much the only thing that gets me, but I guess that's just their thing. I definitely get to do what I want, and I DO play my games when I want to
            In da butt.
            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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            • #7
              This OP amuses me . Yeah, shopping can be boring at times, but if you really have a good woman, she'll put up with stuff she finds boring as well (ie, watching sports being major). Then again, I actually like shopping, so I make my g/f put up with the stuff I want to see as well. Also if your g/f doesn't care that she is making you broke, you have a major problem.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pekka View Post
                NO she is not a bad one That was definitely an overboard.... The things my SO has gone through with me because of my situation has been tremendous. She's been my biggest support, never leaving my side, showing loyalty to the end if that would have been the case.

                Not only that, but everything is good. The shopping stuff is pretty much the only thing that gets me, but I guess that's just their thing. I definitely get to do what I want, and I DO play my games when I want to
                Let's hope some day, you will say 45 years and counting. Number 46 will be next Nov 8, 2010. Take care.

                Joseph

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                  Let's hope some day, you will say 45 years and counting. Number 46 will be next Nov 8, 2010. Take care.

                  Joseph
                  Congrats Joseph! Ive been burnt a few times by relationships that didnt work out the way I wanted to. It stories like yours that give me hope that relationships can and do work the way they should!

                  Have you got any advice?
                  Safer worlds through superior firepower

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                    Let's hope some day, you will say 45 years and counting. Number 46 will be next Nov 8, 2010. Take care.

                    Joseph
                    46 for you? That's pretty amazing. I'm not even close to being 46 years old, let alone with the same woman. I'm in it for the long haul as well.

                    Imran, I was exaggerating with most of the things. If it was an accurate description, I think it would have been over pretty fast. I still don't like shopping though. But she puts up with stuff I want to do. For example, I work way too much still, and she has expressed her concern over it, yet she doesn't come in the way because I like my work. But things like these can be major issues with couples. So far she's been able to cope with it, naturally I'm cutting back and scaling it down more, I'm in transition of forming my old one man business into a company with few more owners and partners, and doing my PhD at the same time so I'm extremely busy with these things. And pregnant women might thing that a man should be doing something else than typing his nerdy papers about nerdy subjects all night long.

                    So she has more reasons to be writing posts like this So, she puts with lots of stuff and is capable of doing so. if I really want something, it's OK, it gets done. I don't think she has ever really refused me of anything.
                    In da butt.
                    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                    • #11
                      Ahhh, pregnant, I missed that crucial point.

                      In that case, you will need to be doing much to reassure her that you are devoted to her, and even then she will probably become irrationally anxious at times. Don't go broke tho.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Pekka View Post
                        NO she is not a bad one That was definitely an overboard.... The things my SO has gone through with me because of my situation has been tremendous. She's been my biggest support, never leaving my side, showing loyalty to the end if that would have been the case.

                        Not only that, but everything is good. The shopping stuff is pretty much the only thing that gets me, but I guess that's just their thing. I definitely get to do what I want, and I DO play my games when I want to
                        Oh yea, when you become dependent on them they tend to keep it that way.

                        Anyway, it sounds like it's all good.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • #13
                          To both of you.

                          One day at a time.

                          There will ups and downs.

                          Decide early on, I'm not leaving.

                          Other Girls will be there from time to time. But is it worth it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                            To both of you.

                            One day at a time.

                            There will ups and downs.

                            Decide early on, I'm not leaving.

                            Other Girls will be there from time to time. But is it worth it.
                            I've decided long time ago I'm not going to leave. It is also a question of options: I choose to be a person that does not follow some random urges. More important is to be decent and respectable, and not for anyone else but to myself.

                            But yeah, things are going well. I guess pregnant women can sometimes be a bit irrational, yes, and also insecure and have these nightmare scenarios inside their heads. None of which will become true, at least in my case. In a way it's understandable though.
                            In da butt.
                            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                            • #15
                              It's time for Pekka to get married.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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