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  • #16
    Originally posted by OzzyKP View Post
    Wait, I'm confused. Does he think it is an offence or not?

    My guess is that you are a mere youngster with bad reading capabilities
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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    • #17
      That's cute coming from a guy who can't see the difference between a Hindu religious/cultural authority and an Indian judge.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ecofarm View Post
        That's cute coming from a guy who can't see the difference between a Hindu religious/cultural authority and an Indian judge.
        Well, honestly, I asume that you really try to express something, but I have a hard time to figure out what you mean.
        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

        Steven Weinberg

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        • #19
          I'm sure devout Hindus still oppose it. The government does not speak for Hindu religion or culture. There's probably a Muslim on the court, why not give them credit?
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          • #20
            Well, if there ae a muslim in the court and she has said anything interesing, I would gladly comment her, unfortunatedly, I don\t have anything else than what I qouted. If you have more, please post it
            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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            • #21
              What has religion to do with it?

              If I find a Christian and Muslim on the court, will you change the title to "Christian, Muslim, (possibly) Sikh and Hindu culture making sense"? Let's just hope to god there isn't a scientologist.
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              • #22
                Yep, I would do that every time a court says something religious is idiotic.
                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                • #23
                  Ok, you win.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Ecofarm View Post
                    Nice that Christian culture got healthcare passed in the US, right?
                    I've done my part so far.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Ecofarm View Post
                      What has religion to do with it?
                      "The court said even Lord Krishna and Radha lived together according to mythology."
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by germanos View Post
                        "The court said even Lord Krishna and Radha lived together according to mythology."
                        I don't know Hindu theology at all well, but it sounds like the court (trained in law) is trying to turn the tables on religious figures (trained in, uh, religion) with that quote by cherry-picking an example to show that it's "part of Indian culture." This isn't really about Hindu culture so much as it's about modern Indian law. And in any case, I thought India's current prudishness dated back to the days of British occupation. They used to have temples covered in carvings of orgies, you know.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                          Well, I might be wrong, but doesn't the RCC consider sex before marriage a sin ?
                          I think most Christians do. I'm just wondering why you picked on the religion that dosen't use the power of the state to punish people for having sex outside of marriage instead of say a religion that uses several states to stone such offenders?
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                          The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Elok View Post

                            I don't know Hindu theology at all well, but it sounds like the court (trained in law) is trying to turn the tables on religious figures (trained in, uh, religion) with that quote by cherry-picking an example to show that it's "part of Indian culture."
                            Spot on. The court is, in my opinion, relying on the ignorance of the public (with regards to the reference it has made, and about India in general) as a shield against serious criticism. This entire quotation is farcical, betrays a gross ignorance (not to mention lack of understanding) of the topic under consideration, and indicative of the degradation of the quality of the judiciary.

                            In fact, the court should have learnt its lesson by now - it was precisely this sort of remark which got them into the Shah Bano/Muslim Personal Law debacle in the first place.

                            Originally posted by Elok View Post

                            This isn't really about Hindu culture so much as it's about modern Indian law.
                            Again, correct. And I would like the debate to stay focused on those terms - there is no need for the court to bring Hindu culture into it all. The case can be dismissed on purely legal grounds - as it was - and that should have been the end of that.

                            Originally posted by Elok View Post

                            And in any case, I thought India's current prudishness dated back to the days of British occupation. They used to have temples covered in carvings of orgies, you know.
                            Prudishness as a social taboo and cultural values are two quite different (if related) things. It is possible to have quite a sensual culture while at the same time maintaining (or attempting to maintain) a rather strict code of personal and social morality, as can be seen in classical plays such as the Mrichchakatika. (It's one of the most delightfully lively plays I have had the pleasure of reading. The translation by Arthur Ryder is fantastic.)

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
                              I think most Christians do. I'm just wondering why you picked on the religion that dosen't use the power of the state to punish people for having sex outside of marriage instead of say a religion that uses several states to stone such offenders?
                              Because, unlike all the other Christian sects, the RCC actually has its own state.
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                              • #30
                                And they don't stone people. That's right. The one Christian state (and the one Jewish state) do not stone people for being gay, drinking, speaking to a male outside the family, sex before marriage (outside the family, presumably), poor quality cooking or learning to read. And they don't endorse FGM, legally.

                                So?


                                The Jewish state is a democracy. The Catholic one? Perhaps we can attribute the brutality of some governments not to religion, but to politics.
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