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  • How the Russians will save the world.

    By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV, Associated Press Writer Vladimir Isachenkov, Associated Press Writer – 32 mins ago
    MOSCOW – Russia is considering sending a spacecraft to a large asteroid to knock it off its path and prevent its collision with Earth — a collision NASA considers highly unlikely — the head of the country's space agency said Wednesday.

    Anatoly Perminov said the space agency will hold a meeting soon to assess a mission to Apophis, telling Golos Rossii radio that it would invite NASA, the European Space Agency, the Chinese space agency and others to join the project once it is finalized.

    When the 270-meter (885-foot) asteroid was first discovered in 2004, astronomers estimated the chances of it smashing into Earth in its first flyby in 2029 were as high as 1-in-37, but have since lowered their estimate.

    Further studies ruled out the possibility of an impact in 2029, when the asteroid is expected to come no closer than 18,300 miles (29,450 kilometers) above Earth's surface, but they indicated a small possibility of a hit on subsequent encounters.

    In October, NASA lowered the odds that Apophis could hit Earth in 2036 from a 1-in-45,000 as earlier thought to a 1-in-250,000 chance after researchers recalculated the asteroid's path. It said another close encounter in 2068 will involve a 1-in-330,000 chance of impact.

    "It wasn't anything to worry about before. Now it's even less so," said Steve Chesley, an astronomer with the Near Earth Object Program at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

    Without mentioning NASA conclusions, Perminov said that he heard from a scientist that Apophis is getting closer and may hit the planet. "I don't remember exactly, but it seems to me it could hit the Earth by 2032," Perminov said.

    "People's lives are at stake. We should pay several hundred million dollars and build a system that would allow to prevent a collision, rather than sit and wait for it to happen and kill hundreds of thousands of people," Perminov said.

    Scientists have long theorized about asteroid deflection strategies. Some have proposed sending a probe to circle around a dangerous asteroid to gradually change its trajectory. Others suggested sending a spacecraft to collide with the asteroid and alter its momentum, or using nuclear weapons to hit it.

    Perminov wouldn't disclose any details of the project, saying they still need to be worked out. But he said the mission wouldn't require any nuclear explosions.

    Hollywood action films "Deep Impact" and "Armageddon," have featured space missions scrambling to avoid catastrophic collisions. In both movies space crews use nuclear bombs in an attempt to prevent collisions.

    "Calculations show that it's possible to create a special purpose spacecraft within the time we have, which would help avoid the collision without destroying it (the asteroid) and without detonating any nuclear charges," Perminov said. "The threat of collision can be averted."

    Boris Shustov, the director of the Institute of Astronomy under the Russian Academy of Sciences, hailed Perminov's statement as a signal that officials had come to recognize the danger posed by asteroids.

    "Apophis is just a symbolic example, there are many other dangerous objects we know little about," he said, according to RIA Novosti news agency.
    Russians to the Rescue

    I expect all Russian Apolytoners to keep the rest of us posted on the latest.
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    It's about time those Russians did something right.

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    • #3
      How easily can astronomers track these things? It seems like it would be pretty simple to me, since we understand the movement of heavenly bodies pretty well. I could see it being complicated by a shortage of data though.
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      • #4
        We'll nudge it just a little bit, so it'll glance and shear the US&A off the globe.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Felch View Post
          since we understand the movement of heavenly bodies pretty well
          Felch, it's actually pretty difficult to predict the precise location of asteroids decades in advance. You have to figure in gravitational effects from the Sun and Jupiter, along with other planetary bodies it happens to wander near (the Earth, the Moon, Mars?). Errors build up over time. They even have to account for things like radiation pressure from the Sun.

          If you want to know where it'll be next month or next year then there's no problem. The further out you go the more difficult it is.
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            Originally posted by onodera View Post
            We'll nudge it just a little bit, so it'll glance and shear the US&A off the globe.
            Then the Russians will be living out their last days around that time as well - since even a "shearing" off of "just" the USA will have a global effect/impact.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
              Felch, it's actually pretty difficult to predict the precise location of asteroids decades in advance. You have to figure in gravitational effects from the Sun and Jupiter, along with other planetary bodies it happens to wander near (the Earth, the Moon, Mars?). Errors build up over time. They even have to account for things like radiation pressure from the Sun.

              If you want to know where it'll be next month or next year then there's no problem. The further out you go the more difficult it is.
              Makes sense. Asteroids have less inertia and tend to pass through the orbits of other bodies more frequently, so they're tougher to predict.
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              • #8
                Very good. I was going to go into that, but didn't want to get too technical.
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                • #9
                  "Boys with toys"

                  A nice propaganda ploy to show how big their rocket fleet is

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                  • #10
                    I'll show you my rocket, if you show me yours.
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                    • #11
                      On the same day, Russia announced a stricter anti Vodka policy. I wonder if there's a direct link...
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                      • #12
                        I hate Russians. Unless they're female and a center fold.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
                          I hate Russians. Unless they're female and a center fold.
                          Like this?

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                          • #14
                            Well it's nice to know that our fate is in the safe hands of the Russians. I'm going to start digging now.
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                            • #15
                              Aaaaaaand now I have that horrid Aerosmith song in my head. Burn in hell, MrFun. Burn in hell.
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