Bush Gaining on Obama; Or, I Told You So!

[Straybow]

Like I said, if you listened more to what he says, you wouldn't need me to tell you. If it's too much trouble for you to verify your own perceptions, then you don't really have a firm stand for criticizing mine, do you?

In that interview Obama wouldn't even qualify capture of OBL as a victory. It's merely "a goal." No, Obama is clearly uncomfortable with the loser being humiliated, even in what he recently called an arguably just war. Poor little Hirohito! It's as though he thinks this is a children's sports league, where they don't allow scorekeepers and everyone gets an award for participating.

He does want the Jihadists to win, in that he thinks he can talk to them and get them to shake hands and go back to their villages thinking, "That new American President is way cooler than the old one, we don't want to defeat the Great Satan anymore. That idea about getting 72 virgins for blowing myself up probably isn't true, either. What was I thinking when I got into this? Oh, yes, I remember now: it was Bush's fault."

My God, Elok, were you paying any attention to the Obama World Apologies Tour? He thinks America is wrong and deserves the condemnation that the Commies and Muslims have heaped upon us for decades. If he thought he could pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan today without political entanglements he'd do it. He as much as said so in the campaign. He's all for American defeat, as long as he can't get blamed for too many soldiers killed on his watch.

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How would you win the war in Afganistan?

Yes?

[Elok]

Like I said, if you listened more to what he says, you wouldn't need me to tell you. If it's too much trouble for you to verify your own perceptions, then you don't really have a firm stand for criticizing mine, do you?

In that interview Obama wouldn't even qualify capture of OBL as a victory. It's merely "a goal." No, Obama is clearly uncomfortable with the loser being humiliated, even in what he recently called an arguably just war. Poor little Hirohito! It's as though he thinks this is a children's sports league, where they don't allow scorekeepers and everyone gets an award for participating.

He does want the Jihadists to win, in that he thinks he can talk to them and get them to shake hands and go back to their villages thinking, "That new American President is way cooler than the old one, we don't want to defeat the Great Satan anymore. That idea about getting 72 virgins for blowing myself up probably isn't true, either. What was I thinking when I got into this? Oh, yes, I remember now: it was Bush's fault."

My God, Elok, were you paying any attention to the Obama World Apologies Tour? He thinks America is wrong and deserves the condemnation that the Commies and Muslims have heaped upon us for decades. If he thought he could pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan today without political entanglements he'd do it. He as much as said so in the campaign. He's all for American defeat, as long as he can't get blamed for too many soldiers killed on his watch.

So if the terrorists stop killing us for any reason other than their own utter annihilation, they "win"? You're the childish one here. That vision which you just described (which is probably pretty far from what he actually intends as well), improbable as it is, would involve substantially less loss of life on both sides, especially of Afghan civilians, and would lead to the quicker achievement of normal relations with whatever Afghan government wound up in power. You could call him naive--if, as I doubt, that were his exact war plan--but none of your rubbish about hating America.

I ignored his European and Asian tours, which I assume is what you refer to, because I'm not silly enough to think that what the President says to crowds of cheering foreigners means a damned thing. It's not like they can vote for him or anything. Your pal Dubya just spent eight years farting in the face of world opinion, and nothing happened. Also, from what little I read in the newspapers, you're grossly exaggerating. Again. Obama merely admitted past American mistakes. Hell, Pope John Paul II did basically nothing but apologize all those years he was in charge of the RCC, and nobody claimed he "hated Catholicism."

Finally, it's too much trouble for me to verify my own perceptions because you're a manifest loon. Sorry, but you are. I'm not going to bother looking up websites proving that we landed on the moon either. And you still haven't told me how exactly Obama has acted like either Comrade Napoleon or Big Brother.

[Wezil]

Now this is interesting. What was the policy of winning the war which Republicans support and Obama is opposing? How would you win the war in Afganistan?

I don't think this has been answered yet.

The big Republican complaints are (disclaimer: not my arguments):

1) Not enough troops
2) Naming 2011 as the beginning for exit was wrong


Personally, I don't think either makes much of a difference but those are the complaints I read.

[JEELEN]

Not for a nanosecond.

On topic: polls don't decide elections, people (do).

[DinoDoc]

bumbling ass.

The electorate seems to have simply chosen a new one.