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    By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Alexander G. Higgins, Associated Press Writer – Wed Dec 9, 1:55 pm ET

    GENEVA – The world's largest atom smasher has recorded its first high-energy collisions of protons, a spokeswoman said Wednesday.

    Physicists hope those collisions will help them understand suspected phenomena such as dark matter, antimatter and ultimately the creation of the universe billions of years ago, which many theorize occurred as a massive explosion known as the Big Bang.

    The collisions occurred Tuesday evening as the Large Haldron Collider underwent test runs in preparation for operations next year, said Christine Sutton of the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN.

    Two beams of circulating particles traveling in opposite directions at 1.18 trillion electron volts produced the collisions, she said. The Atlas "experiment," one of four major detectors in cathedral-sized rooms in the collider's underground tunnel at Geneva, had part of its equipment turned on and could register collisions.

    "They recorded a handful of collisions, and one of them looks quite nice, so it's on their Web site," she said.

    Sutton said the collisions occurred when the machine was ramped up briefly to 1.18 TeV. That same level set a world record for proton acceleration in November, when Geneva's particle beams traveled with 20 percent more power than Fermilab near Chicago, which previously held the record.

    The operators plan many more collisions at lower energies so the experiments can calibrate their equipment and prepare for more advances ahead.

    CERN then plans more collisions at 1.18 TeV to give all experiments the opportunity to record data at that level, but new scientific discoveries are not expected before next year when the beams are ramped up still higher, to 3.5 TeV.

    That will be 3.5 times more energy that has been reached at Fermilab, previously the most powerful collider.
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      but new scientific discoveries are not expected before next year when the beams are ramped up still higher, to 3.5 TeV


      3.5 TeV isn't going to give us anything either.
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        Still not?
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          If this thing were a Civ wonder, nobody would build it. Unless it had the option to end the world (and thus the game) by building it, in a suicide option.
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            Or as it's commonly referred to, the Palestinian Play.
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              Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
              but new scientific discoveries are not expected before next year when the beams are ramped up still higher, to 3.5 TeV


              3.5 TeV isn't going to give us anything either.
              What level of TeV would we have to reach?
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                The design energy is 7 TeV per beam.

                It's a function of how high the energy and how long they run at that energy. They're not going to run long enough to see something at 3.5 TeV. It's going to run there long enough to do calibration etc.
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                  Damn it!
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                    If there's something to be seen they will see it much faster running at 7 TeV per beam than at 3.5 TeV per beam
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                    • #11
                      Then get to work.
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                        I'm not an experimentalist. My work becomes important if they run for a while at 7 TeV and don't see the Higgs.

                        So there's an outside chance that 5 years from now the papers I've written will become monumentally important.
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                          Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                          I'm not an experimentalist. My work becomes important if they run for a while at 7 TeV and don't see the Higgs.
                          Your work becomes important if they ever want to secure capital to fix the machine once it blows up again.
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                            **** that. I'm shorting their bonds. I don't trust physicists
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                              I thought there was a couple of things that they were more likely to see at lower energies?

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