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  • NY Marathon winner isn't American enough.

    Courtesy of CNBC sports "writer" Darren Rovell:



    Marathon's Headline Win Is Empty
    Published: Monday, 2 Nov 2009 | 12:18 PM ET Text Size By: Darren Rovell
    CNBC Sports Business Reporter

    It's a stunning headline: American Wins Men's NYC Marathon For First Time Since '82.

    Unfortunately, it's not as good as it sounds.

    Meb Keflezighi, who won yesterday in New York, is technically American by virtue of him becoming a citizen in 1998, but the fact that he's not American-born takes away from the magnitude of the achievement the headline implies.

    Nationality in running counts. It's why many identify Kenya as the land of the long distance champions.

    As for the United States? Not so much.

    It has been well-documented that since the mid-80's, Americans haven't had much success in the marathon. Many cite lack of motivation as the root of our troubles, as in our best athletes devote their lives to sports where they can make big money instead of collecting the relatively small paychecks that professional running offers. That, of course, is not the case with African runners, who see in the same winner's check a lifetime full of riches.

    Given our disappointing results, embracing Keflezighi is understandable. But Keflezighi's country of origin is Eritrea, a small country in Africa. He is an American citizen thanks to taking a test and living in our country.

    Nothing against Keflezighi, but he's like a ringer who you hire to work a couple hours at your office so that you can win the executive softball league.

    The positive sign was that some American-born runners did extremely well in yesterday's men's race.

    If any of them stand on the top step of the podium in Central Park one day, that's when I'll break out my red, white and blue.
    Shockingly, Rovell got some flack for posting this. He issued an "apology" the next day:

    I said that Keflezighi's win, the first by an American since 1982, wasn't as big as it was being made out to be because there was a difference between being an American-born product and being an American citizen. Frankly I didn't account for the fact that virtually all of Keflezighi's running experience came as a US citizen. I never said he didn't deserve to be called American.
    Apparently, Ravell doesn't think his twitter feed counts:



    NYC Marathon winner Keflezghi may be a citizen, but can't count as American
    To put in Whoopi terms, I guess Keflezghi is American, but just not AMERICAN American.

    So at what point does one become a true American? Discuss.
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  • #2
    The writer is a moron. Pretty simple.
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    • #3
      You guys will claim credit for all of my accomplishments, too. It's just how you roll.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Asher View Post
        You guys will claim credit for all of my accomplishments, too. It's just how you roll.
        Aren't you considered a natural-born U.S. citizen anyway?
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        • #5
          It's the "natural-born" in any regard that's up for debate.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Boris Godunov View Post
            Aren't you considered a natural-born U.S. citizen anyway?
            No. I have an American parent and was born after the magic Feb 1983 cutoff.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Boris Godunov View Post
              Aren't you considered a natural-born U.S. citizen anyway?

              Worse than that.

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              • #8
                Dude!
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                • #9
                  Fruits and nuts.

                  It's soo true.
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                  • #10
                    Nothing against Keflezighi, but he's like a ringer who you hire to work a couple hours at your office so that you can win the executive softball league.
                    The guy was in the country 11 years - the racist/nationalist (= Republican) douche can't even stop his prejudice getting in the way of getting his facts straight...
                    Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                    • #11
                      This may be the dumbest thing anyone has ever been outraged over.
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                      • #12
                        OK fine, he can be American after all.
                        What I Got Wrong About Keflezighi
                        Published: Tuesday, 3 Nov 2009 | 11:54 AM ET
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                        By: Darren Rovell
                        CNBC Sports Business Reporter

                        Yesterday, I wrote an article about New York City Marathon men's winner Meb Keflezighi. Let me be clear: Meb Keflezighi is an American and any suggestion otherwise is wrong.

                        The debate currently on the blogosphere is over whether or not Keflezighi should count as the first American man winner of the race even though he was not American-born.

                        I said that Keflezighi's win, the first by an American since 1982, wasn't as big as it was being made out to be because there was a difference between being an American-born product and being an American citizen. Frankly I didn't account for the fact that virtually all of Keflezighi's running experience came as a US citizen. I never said he didn't deserve to be called American.

                        All I was saying was that we should celebrate an American marathon champion who has completely been brought up through the American system.

                        This is where, I must admit, my critics made their best point. It turns out, Keflezighi moved to the United States in time to develop at every level in America. So Meb is in fact an American trained athlete and an American citizen and he should be celebrated as the American winner of the NYC Marathon. That makes a difference and makes him different from the "ringer" I accused him of being. Meb didn't deserve that comparison and I apologize for that.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                          This may be the dumbest thing anyone has ever been outraged over.
                          Yes, getting outraged over an immigrant winning the NY Marathon as opposed to a natural-born American is ****ing stupid, I agree.
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                          • #14
                            The reason for the outrage is that the writer is clearly quite racist in his post. He's saying "a racial American [=white, I guess?] still hasn't won the marathon in two decades". That is the objectionable part... he's expressing the same sentiments as the anti-Mexican crowd, basically. "Real" Americans are born and bred in the US, and don't have funny accents or speak a language other than English...
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                            • #15
                              I suppose that if the thought was the guy was a ringer, i.e., he just came to America to compete. 'Cept the guy's been here long enough to be considered American by anyone intelligent.
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