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  • #16
    Keep your peer-reviewed facts to yourself, *******. Some of us are trying to terrify rubes.
    John Brown did nothing wrong.

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    • #17
      Well obviously the lobbying arm of the DIET SODA COMPANIES wants to influence these studies. Cigarette companies ARE STILL DOING THE SAME GOD DAMItfgeruitjh ITHIGN Consider what Ramazzini Foundation thinks before you pretend you are always right.


      Ramazzini Foundation

      In two controversial[6][89] 2006 publications, the European Ramazzini Foundation of Oncology and Environmental Sciences (ERF) reported[57] a dose-independent, statistically significant increase in several malignancies of rats, concluding that aspartame is "a multipotential carcinogenic agent, even at a daily dose of 20 mg/kg body weight, much less than the current acceptable daily intake". According to the authors, their study was superior to earlier studies because they followed so many subjects (1800) to the end of their life span.[57]

      After reviewing the foundation's claims, the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA)[60] the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)[90] discounted the study results and found no reason to revise their previously established acceptable daily intake levels for aspartame. A comprehensive review of aspartame safety stated that the Ramazzini studies were flawed in several ways: comparing cancer rates of older aspartame-consuming rats to younger control rats; unspecified composition of the "Corticella" diet and method of adding aspartame, leading to possible nutritional deficiencies; unspecified aspartame storage conditions; lack of animal randomization; overcrowding and a high incidence of possibly carcinogenic infections; and the U.S. National Toxicology Program's finding that the ERF had misdiagnosed hyperplasias as malignancies.[6] The U.S. FDA requested the study's data and offered to review tissue slides, but the Ramazzini Foundation did not send all of the data and withheld its pathology slides. From the materials received, the FDA found that the data did not support the researcher's published conclusions.[90]

      The New Zealand Food Safety Authority (NZFSA) questioned the validity and significance of the Ramazzini studies, stating, "These studies were conducted in a way that could not possibly have provided any information about the toxicity of aspartame – or in fact anything else in the rats’ diet. ... In fact, the only conclusion that can be drawn from the results is that aspartame appears to be safe because the studies showed that those rats fed it (even at very high doses) lived as long (if not longer) as untreated rats, despite consuming up to more than 100 times the ADI every day of their lives. If aspartame was as horrendously toxic as is being claimed, it would be logical to expect the rats dosed with it to have shortened life-spans. The conclusions drawn by the
      researchers were clearly not backed up by their own data"[91]


      In 2007 the ERF published another study with similar conclusions.[92] Magnuson and Williams stated that the Ramazzini researchers ought to have improved upon the methodologic and conceptual weaknesses that had been present in their earlier paper.[93] Soffritti disputed these criticisms and suggested that critics had misled readers.[94] Several other scientists supported the study,[95] and two called for a study of aspartame workers.[96]

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Wiglaf View Post
        Well obviously the lobbying arm of the DIET SODA COMPANIES wants to influence these studies. Cigarette companies ARE STILL DOING THE SAME GOD DAMItfgeruitjh ITHIGN Consider what Ramazzini Foundation thinks before you pretend you are always right.
        CHECK YOUR FACTS.

        .GOV = GOVERNMENT

        GOVERNMENT = ALWAYS RIGHT

        Researchers examined the relationship between aspartame intake and 1,888 lymphomas or leukemias and 315 malignant brain cancers among the participants of the NIH-AARP Diet and Health Study from 1995 until 2000. Development of these cancers was not associated with estimated aspartame consumption, refuting a recent animal study with positive findings for lymphomas and leukemias and also contradicting claims regarding brain cancer risk.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #19
          You are off the wall. Don't you think that, it would be nice for these studies to prove WHY IT ISN'T CAUSING CANCER? It is telling that they just say "no link given our methodology." Why DON'T THEY SAY HERE'S WHY IT CAN'T HAPPEN?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Wiglaf View Post
            Asher is wrong in a sense. WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG. Aspartame DOES CAUSE CANCER IN LAB RATS. Why don't you LOOK IT UP. I have been drinking diet Coke since I was born and while I have never been proven to have brain cancer I do get headaches a lot and I think there must be at least five tumors in there somewhere.
            Are you claiming to be a lab rat?
            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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            • #21
              I drink lots of Diet Dr Peeper and I am rich, satisfied, and happy, so **** all you who do not drink Diet Dr Pepper. You are what is wrong with the world.
              Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
              Japher: "crap, did I just post in this thread?"
              "Bloody hell, Lefty.....number one in my list of persons I have no intention of annoying, ever." Bugs ****ing Bunny
              From a 6th grader who readily adpated to internet culture: "Pay attention now, because your opinions suck"

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              • #22
                So some of you prodigies actually thought soft drinks were good for you, diet or not?

                That's funny.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #23
                  Uh, no.

                  Not that diet soda was good for us, but that they were not as bad as drinking regular soda.
                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • #24
                    Which is true.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #25
                      I bet you think cell phones are safe too.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Asher View Post
                        Which is true.
                        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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