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  • #16
    Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
    I knew a guy that said that cardinals and blue jays were both beautiful, but they didn't mix. He was racist.
    Cardinals and blue jays are separate species, not separate races, so if anything the guy's a speciest. And it's true that no amount of sexy cardinal-on-blue-jay action will produce offspring.
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    • #17
      The state should get out of the marriage business.

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      • #18
        I think, I'm not sure, but I think they probably got into the marriage side of it due to the divorce side of it.
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        • #19
          Ahh, the South is so post racial.

          Yes, things have gotten better but let's face reality here. The south is still the most racist part of America.

          A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.

          "I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."

          Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said.


          And from a government employee too.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
            Yes, things have gotten better but let's face reality here. The south is still the most racist part of America.
            Bull****! Per usual your ignorance is stunning.

            What appears more common in the south than the north is the well advertised presence of a very small minority of overtly racist pinheads. Is there no Klan and Neo-Nazis in the north? Travel in rural Ohio, Pennsylvania, and upstate NY. Funny that the Klan and Neo-Nazis in those states are hardly ever shown despite their having more members than in the south.

            Having spent 2 years working in NJ, I can say that I found racism there to be a pervasive underlying factor that permeates the whole culture, something that isnt true here. The few African-Americans who've lived in both places that I know personally agree with me. In the south you know if someone is a racist, they dont tend to (or need to) hide it. In the north, racism is more common and more destructive because it is hidden.

            Its interesting to me that the African-American movement to the north (the Great Migration) has now reversed and that middle class African-Americans are now moving back to the south in large numbers away from the pseudo "racial-equality" of the north.
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            • #21
              As far as I know they can refuse to marry people. (If they don't then consider the rest of the post void.)


              This guy just happens to have bad experience with interracial couples and the integration of their kids. As much as some people wish otherwise, mixed race kids do have a hard time being accepted and struggle to find their identity. I think perhaps an exception are blacks in the US since the black community because of the one drop rule would consider black daddy + white mommy = black baby to be true. But imagine the storm if he said that he's ok to marry blacks and whites but not Native Americans and East Asians, he's trying to be consitent from what I can see.


              This is silly in any case, no one is preventing them from getting married. What about people who refuse to marry same sex couples? As long as the next guy that can marry them isn't in another state/city I don't see the big deal. Well sure there may be the loophole of nobody wanting to marry a couple but I don't think this would really happen in this day and age (except in Saudi Arabia or Somalia). I realize I may be insensitive since we don't have such racial issues over here (ok some dislike against the Roma but this is more ethnic than racial) but some comments on other sites on this, have me thinking USAians need to chill.






              Note: If he just hated other races I am sure he would have found a much more effective and PC- camuflaged way to sabotage them and make their lives miserable.
              Last edited by Heraclitus; October 16, 2009, 10:07.
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              • #22
                Hera, unlike in Euroland, people in NA don't like it when gov't bureaucrats (paid by the public!) are allowed to act capriciously in the exercise of their office. It's not up to him to decide that interracial marriage is a bad idea any more than it's up to the human resources guy at town hall to decide that he's not going hire black people because he thinks they're lazy.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by snoopy369 View Post
                  It is my experience that very few people think they are racist; and most of the ones who do, are actually less so than most of the ones who don't.

                  I think its mostly because caling someone a Racist has become a nearly content free boo word or insult in some parts of the world. No one wants to be called or think of temselves as a vandal/terrorist/religious extremist...



                  Also the word is constantly misused. I mean I have heard people over here describing discrimination against Slovenians in Austria, homophobia or just plain rudness as racist.



                  I would ask for a short clarification of what you consider racist?


                  For example if I hold the following beliefs...

                  ... people should be granted equal opportunites and should not be discriminated against because of their race or ethnicity

                  ... there are biological differences between the races. (race is not just a social construct) and it is not unethical to do research in order to determine how small or large these differences are.

                  ... miscegenation is basically no different from a people of the same race but of different cultures having kids.

                  ... I support affirmative action in countries where minority peopulations in the past where victims of institutionalised discrimination. This is true even for strong measures but only under the condition that they have a time limit, perhaps 100 years or 200 years depends on how long the minority was repressed.


                  If I was to hold these opinions would I be racist?
                  Last edited by Heraclitus; October 16, 2009, 10:29.
                  Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                  The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                  The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                  • #24
                    You'd be considered a "racialist".

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                      You'd be considered a "racialist".

                      Ok, please indulge me since English isn't my first language. Is racialist also a boo word? Also what exactly does it mean (in a sentence if I want more I'll wiki) and which opinions I stated in the example are racialist.

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                      Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                      The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                      The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                        Hera, unlike in Euroland, people in NA don't like it when gov't bureaucrats (paid by the public!) are allowed to act capriciously in the exercise of their office. It's not up to him to decide that interracial marriage is a bad idea any more than it's up to the human resources guy at town hall to decide that he's not going hire black people because he thinks they're lazy.
                        There are certain cases where they are allowed to act capriciously. For example over here a doctor is allowed to say no to not prescribing (I know I'm using the wrong word but I can't think of the right one) an abortion if a woman ask for it, but he is under obligation to send her to a doctor who will.




                        Also what about a muslim civil servant that refused to marry a muslim woman and atheist/pagan/Jewish/Christian man because it goes against his religion?
                        Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                        The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                        The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                          BAM stands for "bald assertion man".

                          How were you using it?
                          *****ing and moaning.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #28
                            Racialist is an uncommon word. In common parlance you would be a racist. Racialism does not carry the connotation that you believe in the superiority of or need for dominance by any given race; it simply means that you believe that certain races are innately better at certain things.

                            Now, if you want to carry this to the extreme, very few people wouldn't be racialists at all; for example, only the ignorant would claim that white people aren't innately better at not getting sickle-cell anemia.

                            The line between racialism and simple evidence-based beliefs comes when you start to get into the question of more poorly-defined quantities and those subject to environmental effects like intelligence or athletic ability.
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by DanS View Post
                              *****ing and moaning.
                              On Poly, it's used in the sense I gave.
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                              Stadtluft Macht Frei
                              Killing it is the new killing it
                              Ultima Ratio Regum

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                                So we're not suppose to discuss race issues as they come up just because it happened in a Southern state?
                                It seems as if you've never been in the South and so are unable to make distinctions in attitudes among different parts of the South.
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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