A Music Thread

[Al B. Sure!]

What stylistic similarities?

Coldplay songs are melody-driven, hip-hop tends to be beat-driven.

For use on hooks, Chris Martin's singing works well. Do you think he sounds at all out of place on Kanye's Homcoming I just posted?


Or Kanye and Adam Levine?




Now that came out of, Natalie Cole's:


And Adam Levine liked his hook he made for Kanye that he decided to make a full-length song:


Kind of cool to see the evolution of a song, especially through three different genres of music.

[Thoth]

A couple more in a vain attempt to edjumucate the daft Yank.

[Asher]

For use on hooks, Chris Martin's singing works well. Do you think he sounds at all out of place on Kanye's Homcoming I just posted?


Or Kanye and Adam Levine?

It's just another example of the unoriginality in the hip-hop scene. The hooks are the hardest part of the song to write, and instead of writing their own, they "sample" excellent hooks from actual musicians...then rap around it.

[Al B. Sure!]

It's just another example of the unoriginality in the hip-hop scene. The hooks are the hardest part of the song to write, and instead of writing their own, they "sample" excellent hooks from actual musicians...then rap around it.

It wasn't a sample. Adam Levine wrote that hook specifically for the Kanye West song. He then expanded it into his own song with Maroon 5. I suppose also, you'll say since the music is from Natalie Cole that only shows more unoriginality

Rap, more than any other genre, is about taking what came before, digging through the crates, and re-invigorating new life into great, often forgotten, old songs. There's nothing wrong with that.

[Asher]

It wasn't a sample. Adam Levine wrote that hook specifically for the Kanye West song. He then expanded it into his own song with Maroon 5. I suppose also, you'll say since the music is from Natalie Cole that only shows more unoriginality

It doesn't even matter if he wrote the hook for that then wrote a Maroon 5 song around it later.

The point is the rappers themselves are inept musicians. They rely on the strength of others to add music to make the song bearable. The rapping inbetween the hooks is just like filler.

[Thoth]

It wasn't a sample. Adam Levine wrote that hook specifically for the Kanye West song. He then expanded it into his own song with Maroon 5. I suppose also, you'll say since the music is from Natalie Cole that only shows more unoriginality

Rap, more than any other genre, is about taking what came before, digging through the crates, and re-invigorating new life into great, often forgotten, old songs. There's nothing wrong with that.

Whut?


Recycling other people's creative work is "good"? WTF?

"Rap, more than any other genre is about taking original work pasting on some rubbish and rebranding it as original"

As if I didn't need another reason to dislike the genre. Whooboy.

[Al B. Sure!]

It doesn't even matter if he wrote the hook for that then wrote a Maroon 5 song around it later.

The point is the rappers themselves are inept musicians. They rely on the strength of others to add music to make the song bearable. The rapping inbetween the hooks is just like filler.

Rappers don't have to be musicians any more than singers are musicians! Not everyone has to play a piano or a guitar. I don't recall seeing Sinatra playing a guitar! Many rappers do have musical talent though, for your information.

Here's a rapper playing a guitar:

[Asher]

Rappers don't have to be musicians any more than singers are musicians! Not everyone has to play a piano or a guitar. I don't recall seeing Sinatra playing a guitar! Many rappers do have musical talent though, for your information.

Which ones do?

And musicians need not need to play instruments. They can understand music -- write it for others, for instance, they need not play it. And I don't think a lot of singers are real musicians if all they do is sing other peoples' music. They become instruments themselves.

[Thoth]

Rappers don't have to be musicians

Sig material.

[Asher]

I just have a beef with the music that's being manufactured, rather than made. Hip-hop and pop are the worst for this.

In hip-hop, you get some rapper to rap rhyming words about a subject and intersperse it with a stolen hook from an actual musician.
In pop music, they get some beautiful person, get them to sing a song a team of 40-50 year old musicians wrote via formula, autotune the **** out of it and release it.

It's not music from the heart.

[Al B. Sure!]

Sampling is nothing new and isn't done only in the hip hop community. Say some artists you like, Asher, and I bet they've sampled before.

[Asher]

Sampled? I very much doubt it.

Covered? Yes.

[Al B. Sure!]

Sampled? I very much doubt it.

Covered? Yes.

Say some names. Give me 10 artists and I'll see if and what they've sampled. Famous artists. Nothing obscure.

[Asher]

Say some names. Give me 10 artists and I'll see if and what they've sampled. Famous artists. Nothing obscure.

How do you define obscure?

Random sampling of my recent playlist:

The Killers
The National
The Black Keys
MGMT
Florence & the Machine
XX
Arcade Fire
Broken Bells (The Shins)

[Thoth]

Holy hell, but I'd like to **** that fiddle player.