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  • #16
    STREET SENSE
    Last edited by Wiglaf; September 17, 2009, 21:46. Reason: I'm pissed off

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    • #17
      Do you have any track record, Elok?
      Been published elsewhere, have a portfolio, anything?
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Wiglaf View Post
        STREET SENSE
        You're the one selling that trash on the street corner!
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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        • #19
          Talk it over with your sis-in-law's sister. You can always ignore her advice and she would probably be willing to tell you the pluses and minuses from her perspective.

          Congrats on finishing your first novel!
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #20
            Yes, of course, rather callous of me: congrats and cheers, Elok!
            "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
            "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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            • #21
              Originally posted by DanS View Post
              You're the one selling that trash on the street corner!
              SPARE SOME CHANGE

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              • #22
                I will also volunteer to read it if you don't publish it (and yeah, congrats!).

                BTW, I do know of one person (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Watts) who didn't do so well with the standard publishing house but then has had good success with publishing on the internet (Creative Commons license). He was nominated for a Hugo in 2007. Probably he would suggest doing that over doing a very small time publishing (http://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=213).

                JM
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                • #23
                  This novel probably blows

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                  • #24
                    You're just hoping, Wiggy. Anything for a cheap thrill, huh?
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Elok View Post
                      Well, yes, but large presses have a name for their collection of manuscripts from hopeful authors: "The Slush Pile." They get such a vast number of submissions, and the signal-to-noise ratio is so low, that one's odds of even getting a submission read are roughly equal to those of winning the lottery. The odds are somewhat improved if one uses an agent...but the honest ones are highly selective too. It's a question of sure, small payoff or unlikely huge payoff, or so it seems to me.
                      No, the idea is that if the first part doesn't payoff, you can always fall back on the sure publisher.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
                        Do you have any track record, Elok?
                        Been published elsewhere, have a portfolio, anything?
                        Sadly, no. I don't do short stories. I'm too long-winded.
                        1011 1100
                        Pyrebound--a free online serial fantasy novel

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                        • #27
                          I would greatly recommend that you find a good agent and submit to the big publishers before going the self-publishing route. Remember, if an agent offers any other service than being a face to the publishers, they're a bad agent.
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                          • #28
                            Oh, and thanks for the congrats!
                            1011 1100
                            Pyrebound--a free online serial fantasy novel

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                            • #29
                              I wish I had the attention span to finish writing a novel. I can finish reading them, just writing them is tough. Geesh, I can hardly finish writing this po...
                              Monkey!!!

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                              • #30
                                Paying to be published is pathetic, period. It is a joke that anyone with a brain cell would tell you to do that for any reason. This reminds me of those honor societies that would ask for an "application," then "accept" you and then ask for "money" as a membership fee. The only reason I'd pay to get something "published" is if it was pictures of my opponents in flagrante delincto. Get published for real or keep flipping pizzas, douchebag.

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