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    British soldier killed during rescue of kidnapped journalist in Afghanistan

    Gordon Brown pays tribute to courage of soldier killed in operation to free New York Times reporter Stephen Farrell

    A British soldier serving with the special forces support group has been killed during a pre-dawn raid to free a British journalist being held by the Taliban in northern Afghanistan, it was confirmed today.

    The reporter's interpreter also died in the operation.

    Stephen Farrell, a New York Times journalist, and his translator, Sultan Munadi, were captured last Saturday as they reported on the aftermath of a Nato air strike in which at least 70 people were killed.

    Early today, Farrell said he had been "extracted" after a helicopter carrying British and Afghan soldiers swooped on a compound near the northern city of Kunduz.

    "We were all in a room, the Talibs all ran ... it was obviously a raid," the 46-year-old told his editors in New York.

    The Kunduz governor's office confirmed that the raid had been led by British special forces.

    Military officials told the Guardian that the soldier who died was a member of the special forces support group.

    The Ministry of Defence confirmed that a British soldier, believed to be a paratrooper, was killed during the operation. Two Afghan civilians were killed in the crossfire, the BBC reported.

    "We regret to announce that a British soldier has been killed on operations in Afghanistan," an MoD spokesman said.

    The number of British troops killed in Afghanistan since the start of operations in 2001 now stands at 213, with 41 having died in July and August.

    A spokesman for Gordon Brown said the prime minister had spoken to the UK's leading military commander in Afghanistan, General Jim Dutton, "to thank the [rescue] team for the tremendous effort".

    In a statement, the prime minister paid tribute to the courage of the British soldier who was killed in the raid. "His family has been informed, and our immediate thoughts are with them. His bravery will not be forgotten," said Brown.

    Brown said Farrell was "now safe and well, receiving support from embassy staff and undergoing medical checks."

    He also expressed regret that Munadi died during the operation and sent his condolences to his family.

    Farrell said he and Munadi fled the Taliban compound as the Nato helicopter approached. "We thought they would kill us. We thought should we go out," he told a colleague in Kabul.

    The two men sprinted for cover, protected from flying bullets by a wall. Munadi moved forward, shouting: "Journalist ... journalist!" but fell in a hail of bullets, Farrell said.

    The journalist dived into a ditch and, hearing a British voice, shouted: "British journalist!"

    As he ran towards the voice, he saw Munadi had been killed. It was unclear whether the translator was hit by Taliban or military fire.

    "He was lying in the same position as he fell," Farrell said. "That's all I know. I saw him go down in front of me. He did not move. He's dead.

    "He was so close, he was just two feet in front of me when he dropped."

    Shortly afterwards, Farrell – who was unhurt – rang the foreign editor of the New York Times. "I'm out – I'm free," he said.

    The journalist, who has joint British and Irish nationality, arrived in Afghanistan recently after several years working in Baghdad and across the Middle East. He had previously worked for the Times.

    Munadi was an experienced translator who was at home on holidays when he agreed to accompany Farrell to Kunduz. In his early 30s, he was married, with two young sons.

    The New York Times and other media organisations did not publicise the kidnap of the men last Saturday in order to facilitate negotiations with the Taliban commander who captured them.

    The kidnappings and death reflect the increasing danger of reporting in Afghanistan, where another New York Times journalist, David Rohde, was abducted in November.

    After being moved to a safe house across the border in Pakistan's tribal belt, Rohde and his translator, Tahir Ludin, managed to escape last June.

    Rohde, a Pulitzer prize winner, described Munadi as "an extraordinary journalist, colleague and human being".

    He was quoted as saying that he "represented the best of Afghanistan", adding: "It was an honour to work with him."

    Farrell and Munadi were investigating the aftermath of an incident in which US jets, acting on German intelligence, bombed oil tankers, sparking a huge explosion.

    Yesterday, the German chancellor, Angela Merkel said her government deeply regretted the deaths of Afghan civilians in the strike.

    Her comments came as Nato acknowledged for the first time that Afghan civilians were among those killed when the jets attacked the hijacked tankers near Kunduz.

    The national watchdog group Afghan Rights Monitor said between 60 and 70 Afghan villagers were killed.

    Gordon Brown pays tribute to courage of soldier killed in operation to free New York Times reporter Stephen Farrell


    When a reporter (who was kidnapped before) ignores repeated warnings not to go into an area because of security concerns and shocker of shockers gets kidnapped, should he be left to his fate?
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  • #2
    You should be glad reporters choose to go, or else you would never know.
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
      You should be glad reporters choose to go, or else you would never know.
      I kinda think I could do without knowing that a reporter's arrogance got people killed.
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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      • #4
        Ok, then let's forbid all journalists from war zones. Let's go back to those days.
        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
          Ok, then let's forbid all journalists from war zones. Let's go back to those days.

          DinoDoc seems to think it's an outrage that coalition military personnel are protecting coalition citizens.

          I bet he thinks that if I drive through Anacostia and get shot, the Police whould not try to pick me up because "Hey he knew Anacostia was a dangerous place."
          Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
            Ok, then let's forbid all journalists from war zones. Let's go back to those days.
            Are you an idiot, Sloww? There are numerous reporters in Afghanistan right now who manage to stay safe (well as safe as one can be in a hellhole) and they don't ignore the warnings of the Afghan police that an area is unsafe nor do they ignore the warnings of the locals to flee before the Taliban arrive.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #7
              No, I'm not an idiot, but thank you for asking.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                Are you an idiot, Sloww? There are numerous reporters in Afghanistan right now who manage to stay safe (well as safe as one can be in a hellhole) and they don't ignore the warnings of the Afghan police that an area is unsafe nor do they ignore the warnings of the locals to flee before the Taliban arrive.
                They also stay in super-FOBs and never leave the wire. They aren't real journalists.
                Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                • #9
                  It's a dangerous job that someone needs to do ("embedded" journalists are worse than useless) but no, military rescue missions should not be initiated when journalists are captured.

                  I also feel Steve Fossit should have been left to drown on his failed record setting missions (for similar reasons) rather than see taxpayer funded rescues but i guess that's another topic...
                  "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                    It's a dangerous job that someone needs to do ("embedded" journalists are worse than useless) but no, military rescue missions should not be initiated when journalists are captured.

                    I also feel Steve Fossit should have been left to drown on his failed record setting missions (for similar reasons) rather than see taxpayer funded rescues but i guess that's another topic...
                    Yeah because it is totally the job of a nation's military to ignore their citizens in peril, right?

                    Christ you are an idiot.
                    Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lonestar View Post
                      Yeah because it is totally the job of a nation's military to ignore their citizens in peril, right?
                      When their citizens are going beyond the areas their government can ensure their safety, yes.

                      Christ you are an idiot.
                      And you apparently are an *******. Put me on ignore if you can't play nice and learn some manners.
                      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                      • #12
                        And Daniel Pearl got what he deserved, too, I guess.
                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • #13
                          "got what he deserved"?

                          I didn't say that. "expected" maybe. Some people do very dangerous things.

                          The australian guy killed by the stingray comes to mind. Did he deserve it? Could we see such an end coming?
                          "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                          "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                            When their citizens are going beyond the areas their government can ensure their safety, yes.
                            I guess those journos who got kidnapped into North Korea should have been left to their own fate then? And the inability to ensure their own safety in Afghanistan speaks more to a failure of the troops there, not the journo.



                            And you apparently are an *******. Put me on ignore if you can't play nice and learn some manners.
                            I'm not the one setting the value of a human life at "well, because it's just too gosh-darn hard".
                            Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lonestar View Post
                              I guess those journos who got kidnapped into North Korea should have been left to their own fate then? And the inability to ensure their own safety in Afghanistan speaks more to a failure of the troops there, not the journo.
                              Failure of the mission. Yes. A topic Americans strangely don't talk about. 2 threads a day on Iraq and squat on Afghanistan.



                              I'm not the one setting the value of a human life at "well, because it's just too gosh-darn hard".
                              No, you're the one running in with unprovoked insults. I've always been told Texans were polite.
                              "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                              "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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