suicide thread

[duke o' york]

But his parents and employer obviously cared about him, because otherwise they'd be whoring his life for the press. There is someone out there for everyone, whether they care or not, and whether they've bothered to look for them or not. I'm coming coming on all Ben here (Jarvis gag for any British 'tubbies), but suicide is the answer only for those who refuse to look at the rest of the world, specifically those who care.

[Provost Harrison]

You do here about people who are left in their flats and homes for months on end until someone discovers them for some reason - unpaid bills or a funny smell coming from the place. Saddening really...it is a crap-inducing thought to think you may exit the world this way. I don't want to turn into the male equivalent of this:

[Asher]

So tempted to post the famous PH pic passed out on the floor outside a bar.

[Provost Harrison]

Are you going to Photoshop some cats in too?

[Asher]

If I had the mad photoshop skills.

[Dis]

You do here about people who are left in their flats and homes for months on end until someone discovers them for some reason - unpaid bills or a funny smell coming from the place. Saddening really...it is a crap-inducing thought to think you may exit the world this way. I don't want to turn into the male equivalent of this:

sometimes I have that fear of dying alone. I know I'll never have a woman, but that's ok. I just don't want to die with no friends or family. Though if you think about it, that would be the less selfish thing to do. . That way no one mourns over you. A girl at work pushes me to be friendlier and stuff. I am getting better. I used to not be very friendly and never smiled. I always though that was kind of gay. . But it is important. I want my life to have some value to someone, or what's the point of going on with it?

[Jon Miller]

Suicide is very selfish and is almost never the right option.

Exceptions can be made for if you are dying and in pain, or if you have some zombifying virus that you don't want to spread to the world, or something similar.

There are people who care about you. There are people who you should care for, who you could be making life better for. Everyone (who is capable of suicide) has skills/etc that they could be using.

Suicide is very selfish.

JM

[Provost Harrison]

sometimes I have that fear of dying alone. I know I'll never have a woman, but that's ok. I just don't want to die with no friends or family. Though if you think about it, that would be the less selfish thing to do. . That way no one mourns over you. A girl at work pushes me to be friendlier and stuff. I am getting better. I used to not be very friendly and never smiled. I always though that was kind of gay. . But it is important. I want my life to have some value to someone, or what's the point of going on with it?

Smiling and being friendly is "gay"? Come on man, you're going to turn into a right grouch at this rate. The only tasks I get from female colleagues is to find mooing milk jugs in Switzerland, so I must be doing something right.

[Dis]

milk jugs? what?

[Provost Harrison]

No, mooing milk jugs...one of my colleagues has asked me to get her such an item the next time I am in Switzerland as she saw one there and take it back to Mexico City with me.

[Blaupanzer]

Dis, Make a concious effort to expand your own circle.

As to jumpers, they always leave a mess for someone to deal with. In my youth, I worked the graveyard shift as a laborer on the UP Railroad and went to school in the day. One night laborer responsibility was to clean the exteriors (and interiors -- another issue) of the engines in the roundhouse shop. They were there mostly because something went direly wrong, they hit something, or something hit them. One night, the boss singled out an engine for me and said: "instead of the usual steam hoses and high powered water nozzles, we need you to handsrape this one and put the material in this special box. The train had hit a human, the investigators were done, and the individual was to be scraped off so he could be buried. Stinking, sad work recovering the muck of a suicide who had stood on the tracks with his head bowed as the train locked its brakes but could not possibly stop.

[Arrian]

Suicide by [some other person] is doubly awful, don't you think? Not only have your offed yourself and hurt your family/friends, but you've probably given some other random person nightmares for years. Awesome

-Arrian

[Provost Harrison]

Well it's a living for them, isn't it?