Democrats to deny public health care based on party registration

[Sprayber]

Is this thread really about trying to say that one group of lying cheating bastards is better than another group of lying cheating bastards?

[Lonestar]

Is this thread really about trying to say that one group of lying cheating bastards is better than another group of lying cheating bastards?

Yes, Dammit!

[Sprayber]

As long as everyone is on the same page.

[rah]

ITT we learn that rah equates City Machines a few decades ago with nationwide attempts at voter disenfranchisement in the last election.

Anyone that thinks machine politics stopped a few decades ago in Chicago is really naive. I'm not denying that the repugs have tried some slimy tricks. All I'm saying that in Chicago every trick if fair game if you're a DEM. So neither party gets to claim the high ground. Pretending one is better than the other is foolish.

[Blaupanzer]

Yeah, like bribing winos with booze and cigarettes to vote for them. Oh wait, that was the DEMS.
There's nothing they can do I wouldn't believe.

Do you have any recent examples of this occuring? In most states, it is very difficult for unregistered voters to vote on election day. Was easier in the past. Similarly with the dead voting in Chicago. The phone calls telling people their polling place or day had changed occured in the 2008 election.

[Guynemer]

I've already raised this issue in the Sarah Palin thread.

[Thue]

And don't forget all the dead dems that vote in chicago also.
But I guess that's different too since they're not disenfranchising the dead.
And gerrymandering is a form of disenfranchisement that is popular by both parties, so get off the high horse.

Both parties suck and will do anything and everything to win.

Every time the Republicans are criticized, you try to justify voting for the Republicans by trotting out some example of a Democrat acting badly.

Your examples are all true, for all I know. But it doesn't change the fact that as far as I can see, Republicans are a magnitude worse than Democrats. Case in point the one from this thread, which was sent out by the Republican National Committee!

May I point out that if you can justify voting for a party in spite of their wrongdoing just by citing some random wrongdoing another party has done, without taking the sum of wrongdoing into account, you could just as well have justified voting for the Nazies in 1933 in Germany... Hence why I don't buy your argument.

[Lorizael]

Gowin's Law invoked. Thread over. Let's all go home, folks.

[Blaupanzer]

Go Thue; that's telling 'em.

[Japher]

May I point out that if you can justify voting for a party in spite of their wrongdoing just by citing some random wrongdoing another party has done, without taking the sum of wrongdoing into account, you could just as well have justified voting for the Nazies in 1933 in Germany... Hence why I don't buy your argument.

Both sides do this, it's called mudslinging, and is therefor not a case in point. Nice try.

[Arrian]

Like the Dems could ever manage to do something this brilliantly evil.

-Arrian

[rah]

I have not once in any of these threads used it to justify voting republican. (I don't mindlessly vote REPUG every election) I just pointing out that those that make these claims live in a glass house and are throwing stones. God you dems are touchy. I've lived in CHICAGO my whole life and watched the DEMS treat it as their personal fiefdom so I refuse to get into an arguement on the degree of evil. BOTH SIDES ARE and in CHicago the dems are most evil. (example Stroger, there is no family worse) Geeze.

Every time the Republicans are criticized, you try to justify voting for the Republicans by trotting out some example of a Democrat acting badly.

Your examples are all true, for all I know. But it doesn't change the fact that as far as I can see, Republicans are a magnitude worse than Democrats. Case in point the one from this thread, which was sent out by the Republican National Committee!

May I point out that if you can justify voting for a party in spite of their wrongdoing just by citing some random wrongdoing another party has done, without taking the sum of wrongdoing into account, you could just as well have justified voting for the Nazies in 1933 in Germany... Hence why I don't buy your argument.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Like the Dems could ever manage to do something this brilliantly evil.

-Arrian

Competency

[Lonestar]

Anyone that thinks machine politics stopped a few decades ago in Chicago is really naive. I'm not denying that the repugs have tried some slimy tricks. All I'm saying that in Chicago every trick if fair game if you're a DEM. So neither party gets to claim the high ground. Pretending one is better than the other is foolish.

ITT we learn that rah EQUATES CITY MACHINES a few decades ago with NATIONWIDE attempts at VOTER DISENFRANCHISEMENT in the last election.

And, of course, no evidence has been provided on widespread dead Dems voting in the most recent elections(let's be charitable and say, oh, the last 3 national Presidential elections and all the midterms).

As opposed to national efforts being made by the Republicans to disenfranchise folks in a roundabout fashion.

[Lorizael]

I have not once in any of these threads used it to justify voting republican. (I don't mindlessly vote REPUG every election) I just pointing out that those that make these claims live in a glass house and are throwing stones. God you dems are touchy. I've lived in CHICAGO my whole life and watched the DEMS treat it as their personal fiefdom so I refuse to get into an arguement on the degree of evil. BOTH SIDES ARE and in CHicago the dems are most evil. (example Stroger, there is no family worse) Geeze.

We know you don't always vote Republican. As you've admitted on more than one occasion, you used to vote Democrat because you were concerned about your principles, but now that you're old you vote Republican because you're concerned about your money.