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  • #31
    Originally posted by Kitschum View Post
    I think at a very basic level I feel at home in my home country and I like that. I feel proud when people from there win things at sport. I also liked reading about our glorious history when I was younger. Now I just don't have the time. I have endless petty complaints about our government and how my fellow citizens act. That is my personal nationalism and I would consider it very moderate.

    About media and disconnect, that definitely and painfully exists. A lot of people here are nationalist, more or less than I am but usually more. The media is run by people like me at best, and at worst young idealistic hacks who hate their country (and parents). Yes, the mainstream media appears to cover the whole spectrum of mild discomfort to viruelnt self-hating rage when it comes to your own coutnry and its values and traditions. But yes the raging nationalists are mostly missing. The darkies-out variety is completely absent on Tv and in newspapers, but very prolific on the internet for example.

    This all ties into and feeds cynical and populist politics, and severe distrust of any mainstream media. I am not just talking of separate parties, but also of the degeneration of the traditional political parties. Recent immigration has ****ed us over good, that is true, and the lack of recognition or even debate i any widely read/seen public arena is part of this. Is this what the thread si driving at. Otherwise I don't know.

    Very strange.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by VetLegion View Post
      The more smart and educated a person is, the more likely he or she will distance him/herself from nationalism.
      That's true in Europe, where the elite are actively trying to break down nationalism and replace it with loyalty to a supranational entity the EU but not every where. I will say that more educated people are less likely to be jingoistic but that is very different from nationalism.
      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by RoboCon View Post
        Hello there! I see you are discussing nationalism. Perhaps I can be of assistance.

        Saddam Hussein hates America for Grenada posed an imminent thread to our security, 9-11 bodies, UAW, Marion Barry, blue. Our resident Obama mouthpiece would see men marrying their pets before the freedom of the Iraqi people. Special event or have experience in all local authorities to request or decision of this global hunger additional single Muzzie / Cairo park to buy it for rapists. 9-11 changed everything. Chappaquiddick was FDR's crowning blow.
        Another excellent post by Robocon. He really does capture the posting style of a real right wing nut.
        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
          Very strange.
          Or just too real for you?

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          • #35
            What real?

            Where is home?
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            • #36
              Sirius.

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              • #37
                Well then, that's how I'll take your post.

                Very strange.
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                • #38
                  I'd hate for you to take it unsiriusly.

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                  • #39
                    That could have several meanings.
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                    • #40
                      Thanks for playing. But we're done now.

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                      • #41
                        Done what?
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                        • #42
                          Kitschum - which country are you referring to?

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                          • #43
                            I mean siriusly.

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                            • #44
                              tribalism was supporting your own tribe over others, thus increasing the chances of survival of everyone in that tribe

                              nationalism is supporting your own nation over others, thus increasing...

                              globalism is indifference

                              nationalism beats tribalism and globalism might beat nationalism, but tribalism certainly will beat up globalism. see exponential population increase and territorial conquest of iraqi tribes in multiculti-globalist sweden

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                              • #45
                                "- do you see the same problem I am seeing? A rift between what the population feels and what the media tell them to think?"

                                I suggest trying different media.

                                That aside, having parents of different nationality really helps putting nationalism into its proper perspective: it's quite useless - as it has been since the 19th century. It's about as useful a political philosophy - if one might call it that - for the 21st century as that other 19th century ideology, Marxism.
                                Last edited by JEELEN; August 22, 2009, 23:18.

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