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  • #31
    There was this guy on "The Shark Tank" the other night who had a device that wouldn't allow your car to start if you weren't buckled. He wouldn't sell it to the VCs because he wanted guarantees that the item would actually be marketed and sold to the consumers if not just the car companies. I think our money would be well spent buying patents (even for large sums) if they would be made free to the public. There is a lot of IP that is bought and never used to protect existing IP, much to the determent of society.

    Of course, design patents would become huge, but that really has little to do with functionality or even utility.

    I'll go hunt down the paper you linked to.
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    • #32
      Indeed. Some producers do segment the market somewhat. A classic example is the release of hardcover and paperback books. Hardcover for the people who need it NOW and will pay a premium, paperback later for the segment of the market that will buy it, but for less.

      Of course in the computer/Kindle world there will have to be a somewhat new option, I'd imagine.
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      • #33
        There was this guy on "The Shark Tank" the other night who had a device that wouldn't allow your car to start if you weren't buckled. He wouldn't sell it to the VCs because he wanted guarantees that the item would actually be marketed and sold to the consumers if not just the car companies. I think our money would be well spent buying patents (even for large sums) if they would be made free to the public. There is a lot of IP that is bought and never used to protect existing IP, much to the determent of society.


        This is the next issue...free IP makes new IP cheaper....
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        • #34
          For those who can't read the paper I'll PM or email it to you if you request it. I'm not going to post it in public and get Poly in trouble.
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          • #35
            I'd like to read it.
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            • #36
              Link sent. Will have to remove within a day or two. Don't want to run afoul of my department.
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              • #37
                Ta.
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                • #38
                  Povs in developing countries get free access to publications, yet I don't? **** you, NBER...
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                  • #39
                    Hopkins is a developing country?

                    (link sent)
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                      At what price?

                      The article I linked to suggests a 2nd price auction where MOST of the time the gov't purchases at some multiple (M > 1) of the top price (with the patent holder granted the right to refuse the offer) and some other percentage of the time the auction winner pays the 2nd price and receives the patent (with the gov't paying the difference between (M times the top price) and the 2nd price, and the originator still having the right of refusal). Which patents the gov't buys and which it doesn't are decided randomly with fixed probability after the auction is held. the fact that the gov't doesn't buy all the patents is to keep the bidders honest.
                      I would love to see the government implementation of "decided randomly"

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                      • #41


                        or, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardwar...mber_generator
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                        • #42
                          Hopkins is a developing country?


                          It's in Baltimore, isn't it?

                          You should expect a free download if you are a subscriber, a corporate associate of the NBER, a journalist,a site with your domain name in ".GOV" , or a resident of nearly any developing country or transition economy.


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                          • #43
                            Market segmentation
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                            Killing it is the new killing it
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                            • #44
                              We all wish.

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                              • #45
                                Drake, don't you have a .gov?
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