Death row inmate gets court OK to drop appeals

[DinoDoc]

Yes, because that's what Jesus would do . . . oh wait.

Jesus never said anything against the death penalty.

[OzzyKP]

You're right, he was totally for it, in Matthew 5:38-43

38"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'[g] 39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. 43However if a black man kills a white person in Texas, he should be sentenced to death by electrocution.

[Jon Miller]

That was indivuals, not the government.

Christ (and the Apostles) were focused on people. They gave very little care to the government.

JM

[Jon Miller]

By the way, the 'natural' result is eye for eye and tooth for tooth.

It was noticed that this led to feuding, people being killed who didn't need to be, weaker groups being picked on, and so on. So then part of the government began to be that they were the ones who gave justice, not the people who were wronged.

This has led to a system that works much better... but it still means that the government does have the authority to execute someone (well, obviously they do). The 'natural' response is to kill a murderer. The government does it instead of the friends of the victim, which is a lot better for society.

Recently, it has been determined that it might be better to not execute at all. And that is OK. And there is definitely truth to the point that the execution system in the US needs help, and perhaps until it gets that help it shouldn't be used. But that doesn't change the fact that giving the 'natural' result is justice.

Probably if the government starts becoming thought of as not giving justice, then people will start taking it into their own hands again. We can all agree that this isn't a good thing.

JM

[SlowwHand]

That was indivuals, not the government.

Christ (and the Apostles) were focused on people. They gave very little care to the government.

JM

Which is exactly what Judas debated with Jesus many times. Judas thought efforts should be applied differently.

[chequita guevara]

Jesus never said anything against the death penalty.

"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."

I think he was rather adamantly against it.

[SlowwHand]

Che, that was said about stoning a woman caught in adultery. Put it in perspective.

[Sava]

somehow, I have a hard time picturing Jesus walking by, saying something holy like that, but then just changing his mind because he found out the crime was murder instead of adultery

but I guess some Christians (in name only) believe the sins of a human can be greater than the love of God

[SlowwHand]

Why do you say that? Is it your contention that every bad thing is equal? I respectfully disagree.

[DinoDoc]

"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."

I think he was rather adamantly against it.

Then why didn't he challenge the right of the accusers to kill the adulteress according to the Mosaic law. That would seem to be a perfect chance to highlight his adamant opposition.

[Sava]

Why do you say that? Is it your contention that every bad thing is equal? I respectfully disagree.

noooo.... i don't think Jesus was interested in ranking sins, but rather, expressing his disapproval with punishment... hence, the whole bit about forgiving sins

but maybe you missed that testament... perfectly understandable

[SlowwHand]

Against punishment? My ass. That's ridiculous.


The way people treat me here, I should forgive. If someone kills my daughter, guess again.

[Sava]

Then why didn't he challenge the right of the accusers to kill the adulteress according to the Mosaic law. That would seem to be a perfect chance to highlight his adamant opposition.

because he's God, duh

[Sava]

Against punishment? My ass. That's ridiculous.

Have you ever read the New Testament? or do you just pretend to be a Christian?

[SlowwHand]

Yes, he's God. And he sent someone to do his light work.


Don't even go there. You want a resume or something? I can whip one out if you think that makes a difference.