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  • Your problem, KH, is that you are trying to use a different definition, albeit, a correct one. When there is a commonplace definition, i.e., one that the general public uses, and a more specific term, one that statisticians use, one is not an idiot for not knowing the more specific meaning.

    As to who stopped the Census from using particular methods, while the order came down from the Supreme Court (dominated by the GOP, btw), SCOTUS can't simply hand down orders. It was the result of a lawsuit originated by the GOP dominated House of Representatives, since they didn't have the votes to get past a Clinton veto.

    In any event, you are harping on niggling points when the overall point, that the 2000 Census is generally understood to have been a bad one remains uncontested.

    Now, I know you like jumping down people's throats for fun, and I guess it's my turn, but in this case, even if you are technically correct on precise jargon, I'm still correct and I still know what I'm talking about.

    Victory is mine!
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    • Victory is mine!


      That's the second time KH has been pwned in this thread.
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      • Nothing sucks worse than being technically correct but untechnically incorrect
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        • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
          Victory is mine!


          That's the second time KH has been pwned in this thread.
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          • I'm still correct and I still know what I'm talking about.


            Not even close, dude. You had no idea what the **** you meant when you tossed the word "sampling" out there. You sounded RIDICULOUS.

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            • In any event, you are harping on niggling points when the overall point, that the 2000 Census is generally understood to have been a bad one remains uncontested.


              I already contested the substance of your claim, and you've done NOTHING to address the points I raised (that the Lebanese community is not likely to be one to be substantially undercounted, and that Drake's figures come from the ACS, which, as it is NOT used to decide apportionments or districting is not subject to similar scrutiny from either the legislature or the judiciary, and in fact DOES apply significant statistical corrections yadda yadda yadda).

              Instead, you're stuck making a number of retarded, tangential claims:

              1) That the census is not a sampling
              2) That saying the word "sampling" is sufficient to convey information on the methodologies the Census Bureau was prevented from using. times infinity
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              • By the way, I'm interested in knowing precisely how it is that imputing the number of residents in a house which census-takers are unable to properly survey BASED ON SIMILAR HOUSES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA would not be considered a "sampling" technique according to you.

                This is something the census bureau DID in 2000.
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                • Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                  You're out of your element, Donny.


                  The rest of what KH is saying is correct, but irrelevant.

                  If you want to use statistical techniques to tweak the census in your favor, you need to amend the Constitution. Frankly I don't care if people who hide from the census aren't counted. I had a friend who tried to hide from the census because he thought they were going to snitch him out for selling weed. People like that are ****ing retarded and they do not deserve to be counted.
                  John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                  • You're irrelevant.
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                    • times sqrt(312 million)



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                      • Wow. I'm surprised that worked out properly on the first try.
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                          • Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post

                            b) The census does not reach the whole population anyway. So it even studies a proper subset


                            Bluster your way out of that one, Marie.

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                            • I have no idea what you think it proves to quote what I said, bolding a single word.

                              I suggest you look up the definitions of "subset" and "proper subset"

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                              • Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                                Instead, you're stuck making a number of retarded, tangential claims:

                                1) That the census is not a sampling
                                Verified as a correct distinction in context.

                                2) That saying the word "sampling" is sufficient to convey information on the methodologies the Census Bureau was prevented from using. times infinity
                                Yes, because all methods of statistical inference were banned by SCOTUS.

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