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    our first anti-glbt hate crime on this scale



    Two killed in shooting at Tel Aviv gay center
    By Haaretz Service and News Agencies

    15 others wounded in shooting spree; police launch manhunt for gunman; MK Horowitz: This is a hate crime.

    A gunman shot dead two people and wounded at least 15 others in an attack at a central Tel Aviv gay and lesbian center Saturday night before fleeing the scene.

    Israel Police said that the incident at the club on Nahmani Street did not have a terror motive. The two victims were initially identified as a 24-year-old man and a 17-year-old woman.

    Witnesses told Israeli television that the black-clad, masked gunman stormed into the Tel Aviv Gay and Lesbian Association building and opened fire in a basement room where gay teenagers were holding a weekly support group.

    Most of the casualties were minors, a police spokesman said, adding that the assailant was believed to have used an automatic weapon such as an M-16 rifle.

    Channel 10 television reported that a police manhunt for the gunman was underway in the city. The channel also said that police had closed all the gay clubs in the area following the attack.

    Witnesses said the gunman entered the center at around 11 P.M. and opened fire in all directions.

    [...]
    Meretz MK Nitzan Horowitz, Israel's only openly gay lawmaker, condemned the attack on as a hate crime.

    "This is undoubtedly the worst incident targeting the gay community in Israel. It has the characteristics of a hate crime, of someone who attacked to blindly strike out at every person on the spot," he said.
    Police still hunting for Tel Aviv gay center gunman
    By Yuval Goren and Noah Kosharek, Haaretz Correspondents and The Associated Press


    Hundreds of police officers were scouring the streets of Tel Aviv on Sunday in a door-to-door manhunt for a gunman who opened fire inside a gay youth club in the center of town.

    A masked man entered a club for gay teens late Saturday, pulled out a pistol and shot in all directions, killing two and wounding 15, four of them seriously.

    Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said the man then holstered his pistol and fled the scene by foot to the busy streets of Tel Aviv.

    The victims of the attack were named as Nir Katz, 26, of Givatayim, and Liz Troubishi, 17, of Holon.

    Ten people wounded in the shooting attack were still hospitalized Sunday morning. A Magen David Adom emergency health service spokesman said that "MDA is always on call, and the ambulances arrived at the scene of the attack within minutes."

    Magen David Adom said that five of the wounded had been taken for treatment to Tel Aviv's Ichilov Hospital, two of them in critical condition.

    Five others who were lightly hurt were taken to the Wolfson Medical Center in Holon.

    Gays and lesbians enjoy great freedom and liberties in Israel. Soldiers serve openly in the military, and openly gay musicians and actors are among the most popular in the country.

    Tel Aviv in particular is one of the more liberal cities in the world - it holds a festive annual gay parade, rainbow flags are often seen waved from apartment windows and the there is even a city-sponsored open house for the community.

    'There was nowhere to run'

    A 16-year-old victim of the shooting said on Saturday that he feared the incident would force others to disclose their homosexuality.

    "I'm horrified to think that this is the way the parents of some of my friends will find out," Or Gil, who was taken to Ichilov Hospital following a knee and chest injury, told Haaretz.

    "At about 10.40 P.M. someone came over, all dressed in black and wearing a black mask," he recounted. "I thought it was a joke at first, but he immediately opened fire. People took cover under the bed and tables, but there were no screams. I hid under a table with someone else. It's a small place; there's just one terrace. Once you're inside, there's nowhere to run."

    Gil came to the center every week to take part in activities for teenagers.

    "It's for 14- to 21-year-olds," he said. "Teenagers just hang out there, talking and listening to music."

    "I love this place," Gil concluded, "but I don't know if I will ever go back there. I want to, but it's too soon to say."

  • #2
    Israel isn't a western liberal nation.
    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
    Stadtluft Macht Frei
    Killing it is the new killing it
    Ultima Ratio Regum

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    • #3
      Isn't MK Horowitz one of the Beastie Boys?
      KH FOR OWNER!
      ASHER FOR CEO!!
      GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
        Israel isn't a western liberal nation.
        it is now

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        • #5
          Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.
          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
          Stadtluft Macht Frei
          Killing it is the new killing it
          Ultima Ratio Regum

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          • #6
            Israel is a colony of Russia

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            • #7
              Montreal Jews versus Israeli Jews (~100k pop vs ~6 million)

              Samuel Bronfman > whatever crappy, non-bootlegging entrepreneurs Israel has
              Leonard Cohen > Ishtar
              William Shatner > Natalie Portman

              3-0. We win.
              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
              Stadtluft Macht Frei
              Killing it is the new killing it
              Ultima Ratio Regum

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              • #8
                I'd take NP over WS. 2-1

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sirotnikov View Post
                  it is now
                  Obviously.


                  I like the smile on the cops face.
                  "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                  "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kitschum View Post
                    I'd take NP over WS
                    That's because you're an idiot.
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                      Montreal Jews versus Israeli Jews (~100k pop vs ~6 million)

                      Samuel Bronfman > whatever crappy, non-bootlegging entrepreneurs Israel has
                      Leonard Cohen > Ishtar
                      William Shatner > Natalie Portman

                      3-0. We win.
                      You had me going until william shatner. own goal.

                      anyway, stop threadjacking. if you want, start a new thread, title it "israeli anti-gay shooting spree" and then use it to discuss whether Israel is entitled to be called a western liberal nation. i'll join.

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                      • #12
                        Is it just me, or would it be cool to watch a bunch of Hassidim fight a bunch of Amish people?
                        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                        Stadtluft Macht Frei
                        Killing it is the new killing it
                        Ultima Ratio Regum

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Wernazuma III View Post
                          Obviously.
                          I like the smile on the cops face.
                          I fail to see your point, or any relation to the OP.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                            Is it just me, or would it be cool to watch a bunch of Hassidim fight a bunch of Amish people?
                            been there done that.
                            hassidim would kick their asses.


                            anyway, discuss the op or start a new thread.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sirotnikov View Post
                              I fail to see your point, or any relation to the OP.
                              It's because I fail to see more relation between anti-gay terrorism and liberal nations other than the very fact that gay activity is allowed only in liberal nations. Thus, "joining the club of liberal nations" has already been complete with allowing public gay life alltogether, not with anti gay violence.
                              "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                              "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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