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  • #31
    Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
    I know precisely what you said. And it was exactly the sort of mundane, obvious, self-aggrandizing response I've come to expect from you.
    Hell, you didn't

    You are no doubt a twit when it comes to programming, so you must expect to be corrected
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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    • #32
      Sweetheart, if I felt as though that criticism held even a grain of truth then it would sting, but I've spent most of my life purging whatever vestiges of those qualities I might have been born with.

      I meet you with a clear conscience on that front
      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
      Stadtluft Macht Frei
      Killing it is the new killing it
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      • #33
        Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
        Hell, you didn't

        You are no doubt a twit when it comes to programming, so you must expect to be corrected
        Feel free then. I welcome novel information. Unfortunately, you appear to be a repository of useless adages and meaningless catchphrases. You're a silk stocking full of ****.

        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
        Ultima Ratio Regum

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        • #34
          Nah, dear, you're just chicken to admit your own failure
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
            Feel free then. I welcome novel information. Unfortunately, you appear to be a repository of useless adages and meaningless catchphrases. You're a silk stocking full of ****.

            Well you started by asking if it was sensible to put everything in the same header file

            a) Should all the new classes be defined in the same header file? What if there are multiple authors working on a bunch of classes simultaneously?
            That really told me all
            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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            • #36
              What failure, sweetheart?

              What is your grand revelation of my horrible misunderstanding? Moreover, why did two compscis, who are far smarter than you and who understand my thought processes far better than you ever will, think that it was silly to mention something as mundane as what you did?

              This masochistic behaviour needs to stop, BC. Chasing after me, trying to nip at my heels does you no good. The more you do it, the more you humiliate yourself, and the greater your need for redemption becomes. It's a downward spiral you've trapped yourself in. I suggest you seek therapy. I'm sure that there are those who might respect your work as a low-level library IT support staffer. Mix with them. Regale them with your anecdotes and pearls of wisdom instead of trying to foist them on your superiors.

              Cheer up, my boy; it's only the internet.
              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
              Stadtluft Macht Frei
              Killing it is the new killing it
              Ultima Ratio Regum

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BlackCat View Post

                That really told me all
                What did this tell you, son?

                Originally posted by Asher
                a) It is situation-specific. Java enforces a "one class, one file" rule while C#/C++ do not. But this approach frequently makes sense, particularly when many people are working on the same file. Smaller files, fewer merges. So if more than, say, 3 people may be working on it, that is probably the desirable approach.
                ???

                In other words, Asher confirmed what I had suspected; that the larger and more distributed a project the more you would like headers separated. In a small group, the one big header file is perfectly acceptable.

                Please note that he did this in the VERY FIRST RESPONSE.

                Then you trotted in a day or two later, repeated what he had said in some sort of obtuse pseudo-nordic fashion and proceeded to proclaim yourself the font from which all wisdom springs.



                BC, do you think that your neuroses are hidden from anybody but yourself? You don't NEED to be as smart as me in order to be a good, productive member of society. The machine needs its cogs, my boy.
                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                Killing it is the new killing it
                Ultima Ratio Regum

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                • #38
                  Cheerio. A bit beat now, what? Might drop by in a few ticks to check for developments. Don't strain yourself; let it come out slowly. Might improve the consistency a bit, what?
                  12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                  Stadtluft Macht Frei
                  Killing it is the new killing it
                  Ultima Ratio Regum

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                    What failure, sweetheart?

                    What is your grand revelation of my horrible misunderstanding? Moreover, why did two compscis, who are far smarter than you and who understand my thought processes far better than you ever will, think that it was silly to mention something as mundane as what you did?

                    This masochistic behaviour needs to stop, BC. Chasing after me, trying to nip at my heels does you no good. The more you do it, the more you humiliate yourself, and the greater your need for redemption becomes. It's a downward spiral you've trapped yourself in. I suggest you seek therapy. I'm sure that there are those who might respect your work as a low-level library IT support staffer. Mix with them. Regale them with your anecdotes and pearls of wisdom instead of trying to foist them on your superiors.

                    Cheer up, my boy; it's only the internet.


                    Well, my first guess is that the two compsci guys would never think that you were serious. I'm not a compsci, though, I can probably learn those guys a trick or two

                    TBH,I really don't care much about them being compsci's - that's just a label that says that they have learned something. If they don't have real life experience, then they are just noobs with a degree - the worst that exist.

                    I have a lot of respect for Asher since he has felt the heat of performance demands and real life incidents.

                    As you say, cheer up, it's only on the internet that I whip your ass

                    Sincerely, I hope that my company sends me to your vicinity so we can meet over a dozen beer or two - it could be fun.
                    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                    Steven Weinberg

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                      What did this tell you, son?



                      ???

                      In other words, Asher confirmed what I had suspected; that the larger and more distributed a project the more you would like headers separated. In a small group, the one big header file is perfectly acceptable.

                      Please note that he did this in the VERY FIRST RESPONSE.

                      Then you trotted in a day or two later, repeated what he had said in some sort of obtuse pseudo-nordic fashion and proceeded to proclaim yourself the font from which all wisdom springs.



                      BC, do you think that your neuroses are hidden from anybody but yourself? You don't NEED to be as smart as me in order to be a good, productive member of society. The machine needs its cogs, my boy.
                      What the hell are you drinking - it must be some serious stuff

                      Yeah, Asher did said an important thing, but he didn't say a word about reusability wich was what I commented on.

                      Now, can you remember my advise about finding a sufficient tree ?

                      Edit: well about the company sending me - I'm not sure that I could find a reason to take a vacation in your vicinity, but I can guarantee an alchoholfilled event including insults if you visit Copenhagen

                      Poly suck seriously - wonder if this will be a third ?
                      Last edited by BlackCat; July 28, 2009, 22:07.
                      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                      • #41
                        Sorry, boyo, but a smallish library is completely reusable with one big header. In fact, this is the way the C++ numerical recipes library is distributed (dozens of classes in the same header). Thanks for playing, old bean.

                        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                        Stadtluft Macht Frei
                        Killing it is the new killing it
                        Ultima Ratio Regum

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                        • #42
                          Yeah, that is the way to do it if you make a std lib

                          Do you really think that because some std library are doing it, then it's also reasonbly for you to do it ?

                          I admit that you work hard to not show up as a noob, but really, why make such mistakes ?
                          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                          Steven Weinberg

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                          • #43
                            Do you really think that because some std library are doing it, then it's also reasonbly for you to do it ?


                            Explain why not, you silly little man...

                            God, you're getting pwn3d by a physicist on software design. This is pathetic...
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                              Do you really think that because some std library are doing it, then it's also reasonbly for you to do it ?


                              Explain why not, you silly little man...

                              God, you're getting pwn3d by a physicist on software design. This is pathetic...
                              Well, thank you for giving me the opportunity to tell you why you are a noob

                              std libraries is well, std, wich means they rarely change - actually, they never do. IF they do, all hel breaks loose.

                              Your lib, on the contrary, will probably often have changes - typically additions, and that will demand recompiling despite it's unnessecary.
                              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                              Steven Weinberg

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                              • #45
                                Sweetheart, there are numerous "standard" libraries which release every month or two which are structured in the exact way I just listed.

                                Nice try, though. You force a recompile when the user chooses to install the newest version. Smallish libraries should not involve recompile times for testing routines which are intolerably long.



                                We've already discussed this: the larger and more distributed the project, the more encapsulated you want your classes. For reasonably smallish projects there's no issue.

                                How is any of this different from what Asher mentioned, again?
                                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                                Killing it is the new killing it
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