The delicious untapped resource....delivers

[Felch]

Regular people who sit at home and smoke and chill or play games or whatever it is they do, work 9 to 5 jobs and pay taxes, raise kids and go to soccer games for their company don't deserve the risk of going to jail for a victimless crime.

I agree. That's why I smoke dope and support amnesty for illegal immigrants. It's called consistency.

[Lorizael]

My stance on immigration is a little different than my stance on legalizing marijuana. I won't deny I probably picked up stuff that came from Mexico, but that doesn't mean I bought an illegal with it. Regular people who sit at home and smoke and chill or play games or whatever it is they do, work 9 to 5 jobs and pay taxes, raise kids and go to soccer games for their company don't deserve the risk of going to jail for a victimless crime.

What's amusing is your opinion, which you stated repeatedly, that illegal immigrants must be deported because they are ILLEGAL, and that the term illegal somehow preempts the Constitution's stance that Congress gets to define the whole of citizenship. But suddenly you're okay with pot being legal, even though the people that smoke it are OMG criminals!

You forgot *populace.

No, I just assumed he was referring to Populous.

[zakubandit]

How does smoking a plant and allowing illegal entry into national borders *illegal in all countries* make consistency?

[zakubandit]

Yes Lori, I am stern on illegal things, but prohibition was found unconstitutional. I don't see a national government's justification in continuing prohibition against marijuana when it has far less death rates from actual use than alcohol, far less addicts *not even the right word* for weed than alcohol, people smoke and pay child support, not all acoholic do. See the trend? And besides, how many people believe murder is a crime but death sentence isn't or killing in self defense isn't, or killing in war isn't? How many of your favorite politicians supported the war on terror at the start and don't now, wanted one thing and want the opposite now, switch parties regardless of how wrong it seems?

[Lorizael]

Prohibition wasn't found unconstitutional. It was made unconstitutional after we made it constitutional.

Murder is a crime because it's defined as one. The death sentence, killing in self-defense, and killing in war are not crimes because they are (usually) not defined as such. Killing itself may be wrong by most moral systems, but I am unaware of any objective morality that could be used to prove that definitively.

And I have no favorite politicians; they're all scum.

[zakubandit]

Unaware of any objective morality that could be used to prove definitvely wrong with killing, so why with marijuana?


So prohibition, after being made constitutional was later made unconstitutional how exactly?

[Lorizael]

Unaware of any objective morality that could be used to prove definitvely wrong with killing, so why with marijuana?

I am not opposed to legalizing marijuana. That said, my stance on morality has nothing to do with my stance on law. I just think that your internal moral compass is what defines your stance on law, which is why you are inconsistent and have trouble parsing constitutional issues.

So prohibition, after being made constitutional was later made unconstitutional how exactly?

****ing Christ, how many times do you need this quoted for you?

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

[Felch]

18th Amendment made it constitutional, 21st made it unconstitutional.

How does smoking a plant and allowing illegal entry into national borders *illegal in all countries* make consistency?

Because most illegal immigrants are hard working people who are just trying to make a living. Illegal immigration is a victimless crime. The focus of immigration authorities should be on keeping out criminals, not potential taxpayers.

[SlowwHand]

No, it's not victimless by any means.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Zaku's ignorance of the Constitution is funny.

[Felch]

No, it's not victimless by any means.

Sorry. Toothless inbred hicks, who can't even compete with illiterate peasants from the third world, are its only victims. Happy now?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

This thread delievers

Sorry. Toothless inbred hicks, who can't even compete with illiterate peasants from the third world, are its only victims. Happy now?

A regular squeal like a pig thread.

[Solomwi]

Zaku's ignorance of the Constitution is funny may have just reached an all-time low (or high, depending on your view).

Fixed.

[Docfeelgood]

Weed is a lazy mans drug of choice.

[Felch]

Who did more for humanity - the lazy guy who invented the wheel, or the ball buster who wanted to do things the hard way?