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  • There's more to United States than just California . . . .

    Apparently, California is not the only state that is ****ed up.

    Other States' Financial Woes

    By JUDY LIN, Associated Press Writer Judy Lin, Associated Press Writer – Wed Jul 1, 6:43 pm ET

    SACRAMENTO, Calif. – States from coast to coast began a new fiscal year Wednesday with no budget plans and with cash quickly running out, sending some to the brink of shutdown and forcing others to furlough workers and cut services.

    In California, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a fiscal emergency and ordered state offices closed three days a month to save money as the state sank deeper into dysfunction. State officials plan to pay bills with IOUs starting Thursday.

    But the pain extends far beyond the West Coast. The governor of Pennsylvania is proposing a 16 percent tax increase. A budget veto by the Illinois governor left the state with no spending plan at all. Indiana barely avoided a shutdown.

    In most states, the debate centers on whether states should be raising taxes to bridge the budget gaps. Schwarzenegger said he wouldn't sign anything that raised taxes or fees beyond what he has already proposed.

    "I'm proud of California, even though we have our crisis," the governor said. "No one can point fingers, because as you can see, there are 30 states right now that have their fiscal year starting today that also don't have a budget, so I mean let's not get carried away and just look at California as we are the only state that cannot manage the budget."

    The recession has taken a devastating toll on tax revenues and state finances. States had a cumulative $121 billion budget gap in crafting this year's budgets — and the gap would be even bigger without federal stimulus money, said Todd Haggerty, a research analyst at the National Conference of State Legislatures.

    "You can't look to any one region that's performing better than the others," Haggerty said. "You can see Arizona and California in the west, Ohio and Illinois in the middle and Pennsylvania and North Carolina in the east."

    The NCSL says seven states — Arizona, Connecticut, Kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio and Pennsylvania — have experienced delays or had to extend their sessions to deliberate on the budget.

    In California, which has a budget but one that is out of balance, the Legislature will have 45 days to send Schwarzenegger a plan to close a gap now pegged by the governor at $26.3 billion. After that, they can't adjourn or act on other bills until they solve the crisis.

    The budget woes will lead to a third monthly furlough day for more than 200,000 state employees, bringing their total pay cut to about 14 percent. The state controller could extend $3 billion worth of IOUs for July.

    Businesses that provide services to the state, taxpayers owed refunds and college students who get state help would be given IOUs. Banks are waiting for the state to decide the interest rate, so it's unclear whether people could cash them.

    Pennsylvania will delay payments to vendors after a partisan stalemate over the deficit stalled approval of the state budget. Gov. Ed Rendell on Wednesday stood behind his call for a 16 percent income tax hike, saying the budget could not be balanced without it.

    Meanwhile, state workers will receive only partial pay on July 17 and July 24, and after that paychecks will be withheld entirely until the impasse is solved. Workers will be paid retroactively. Rendell said 10 banks and credit unions have agreed to help 69,000 state employees by offering them low- or no-interest loans and lines of credit.

    In Illinois, Gov. Pat Quinn on Wednesday vetoed the bare-bones budget lawmakers sent him, leaving the state with no spending plan. The House and Senate are expected to meet July 14 to consider an override.

    Asked how long government could operate without a budget, Quinn said, "The next few days are crucial."

    Mississippi lawmakers left one whole agency — the state's utility regulatory agency — unfunded. The Public Service Commission said it didn't know how it would function, but Gov. Haley Barbour says he can run the agency by executive order.

    In Connecticut, Republican Gov. M. Jodi Rell vetoed the Democrats' budget proposal, saying it was not balanced or realistic. She signed an executive order to keep the government running without a two-year budget in place.

    In Ohio, a budget impasse intensified over a proposal by Gov. Ted Strickland to put slot machines at the state's seven horse racing tracks, all but guaranteeing lawmakers would need a second temporary budget before they could resolve their differences.

    Indiana narrowly averted a large-scale government shutdown after coming to terms on a budget. And Arizona, Indiana, Ohio, Connecticut and Mississippi also were among the other states that raced against the clock to pass budgets.

    The mess in California could spread nationwide because of the sheer size of the state economy. The Senate rejected three bills designed to save $5 billion, including $3.3 billion in education funding cuts that had to be enacted before Wednesday.

    Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, a Democrat, called Republicans' refusal to vote for the measures "an irresponsible position to take."

    ___

    Associated Press Writers Juliet Williams, Samantha Young, Don Thompson in Sacramento, Julie Carr Smyth in Columbus, Paul Davenport in Phoenix, Christopher Wills in Springfield, Ill., Mike Smith in Indianapolis, Susan Haigh in Hartford, Conn., Emily Wagster Pettus in Jackson, Miss., and Mark Scolforo in Harrisburg contributed to this report.
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  • #2
    My, my. No Texas? Why am I not surprised? Possibily because Texas has it's act together?
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    • #3
      So anyone still think this stimulus plan is working anywhere?
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      • #4
        Obama just called it a success.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
          My, my. No Texas? Why am I not surprised? Possibily because Texas has it's act together?
          Well in our defense, the Democratic Party was the main hold out preventing the passage of the budget because of thier stuborn refusal to adequately fund medicaid from stable sources.
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          • #6
            California is just going through its usual budget wrangling due to the stupid 2/3rds law however it is made worse this year because of the recession and resulting drop in tax revenue. Texas is still hopelessly behind us in every way so just accept your second rate status and be happy everyone dislikes you.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
              My, my. No Texas? Why am I not surprised? Possibily because Texas has it's act together?
              Don't be so smug. It was god damned Republicans like Howard Jarvis who deliberately ****ed everything up with the 2/3rds rule. Minority veto is never a good thing especially not in day to day matters and especially not when the politicians are allowed to gerrymander their own districts. Majority rule really is the only thing that works.

              Any way everyone knows Texas sucks and nothing will change that so enjoy our superior wine and cheese and try not to post anything retarded.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                Well in our defense, the Democratic Party was the main hold out preventing the passage of the budget because of thier stuborn refusal to adequately fund medicaid from stable sources.
                You really have no idea what you're talking about. The big sticking point was that the Republicans demanded all cuts to balance the budget, and since that would mean something like 70% cuts to the discretionary budget that's not really possible, or to have, as Democrats wanted, a package of cuts and tax increases. The sales tax did go up, as of today, from 8.5% to 9% but the Republican governor, wisely, is demanding a total fix or nothing. The reality is the the two parties are so partisan due to gerrymandered districting that forcing a total show down is the only way to get them to compromise.
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                • #9
                  You really have no idea what you're talking about.


                  He was talking about Mississippi, you moron. Jesus.
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                  • #10
                    You still smell.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
                      Don't be so smug. It was god damned Republicans like Howard Jarvis who deliberately ****ed everything up with the 2/3rds rule. Minority veto is never a good thing especially not in day to day matters and especially not when the politicians are allowed to gerrymander their own districts. Majority rule really is the only thing that works.

                      Any way everyone knows Texas sucks and nothing will change that so enjoy our superior wine and cheese and try not to post anything retarded.
                      We had Bush as governor and republican Rick Perry. What else you got?
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                      • #12
                        Electing Bush as governor proves my point perfectly. Thank you.
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                        • #13
                          Evidently, you don't get it. California is belly up. Texas isn't. You prove my point. Thanks.
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                          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                          • #14
                            California reminds me of a granola bar.

                            Take out the fruit and nuts all is left is a bunch of flakes

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Docfeelgood View Post
                              California reminds me of a granola bar.

                              Take out the fruit and nuts all is left is a bunch of flakes
                              I hate CA. Lived there for 3 years, worst state I have ever been to...next to Arkansas, another lame state.
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